Comments by "Voryn Rosethorn" (@vorynrosethorn903) on "KaiserBauch"
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A. It doesn't seem to be happening, the opposite in fact.
B. At least one cause is it being pushed as deliberate policy in order to divide the society and import a cheap workforce, so no.
C. This is not a plague, it's nearly or more damaging over the long term but it's not like shortage of labour is going to be an actual problem (see above), likewise it is very apparent that many traps are in place to gather up the wealth as the more prosperous generations leave us, one is inheritance tax but basically every other component of western economies is structured around asset stripping the generational wealth the boomers still hold.
I predict the intention is serfdom, not anything positive, and without a popular revolt led by well organised and coordinated rebel elite, not to mention well funded, then they will get what they want because humans are compliant with power when isolated from support networks, almost certainly a part of the ongoing attacks on any form of social capital that is not filtered through state and corporate institutions.
We are by no means in a hopeless predicament, but unless persistent, widespread and radical action is taken we will have one of our own making.
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There is actually more, but it is suppressed better and has much less political expression. The grooming gangs are a massive issue and much of the working class personally know victims, likewise many of the imported ethnic groups are irreconcilable. If liberally applied central repression by the courts and police lets up for a second or the government gives and impression of weakness a lot of groups will kick off, and unlike in France it will go all the way. The hatred is tangible and real, the community behind the grooming while well organised has made intractable enemies of every group other than the urban liberals, when central authority starts waining (which it will, it has burnt all legitimacy, justification, good will and loyalty, and is morally moribund and financially insolvent) then matters will likely be shifted into military organisation, alliance structures and tribal loyalties. On a wider level the solutions looked at by young people basically split, women wanting bureaucratic oligarchy and men wanting a Franco, I have to doubt the viability of either given the severe lack of competence within our institutions.
Whatever happens however there will be severe ethnic conflict. By holding the lid on a boiling pot all the political class is doing is guaranteeing an explosion of extreme resentment, grievance and vendetta.
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The whole family type things is largely rubbish. Britain historically had many types, but the nobility kept the Norman tradition of oldest son gets all, so did most merchants (with the younger sons becoming employed by the company or setting up offshoots under the main family, part of my own family became rich using this very east Asian tactic), farmers also (specifically in England and Wales, in Scotland it was more communal and in Ireland it was split between sons by the Irish and was the English way with the English and scots). Equally our political developments are not natural, the rights were a clever undermining of noble demands for privileges by universalising them, medieval England was extremely centralised and the aim of the kings was total control through the Anglican church, the non-conformists are at the root of the failure and of the liberal political tradition. We had Filmer, without the glorious revolution and the disempowering of the king we would have become our own strain of absolutist, and that remained a strong strain of toryism for much of it's early history. The idea that we are innately liberal was made up by whig historians and held to by people with no imagination, even now liberal democracy is not a popular system among the population, it is the incumbent one.
Equally the English as a people are not even slightly liberal, they are ridiculously conservative, the liberal elite idolize France and find their own people boorish and uncultured. Much of the traditional elite are even less liberal, thus they were destroyed by inheritance tax. The English respect the past, tradition, authority, responsibility and breeding, the lower stadia of society is not ambitious and they like things being in their place, a lack of responsibility or care bothers them, as does unsuitable people leading, they hold it as natural for a noble to lead, but hate managers and people who don't acknowledge their own place. The destruction of jobs and pettiness towards the working class has caused massive damage, the fact is that such behaviour is at odds with the acceptable functioning of things, they are fine being ruled over, but they want respect, they want care and they want a ruling class who have those in their blood, they don't like being treated with derision by some upjumped member of the middle class, and they don't like airs, so pretending to be French or above the local concerns grates like nobody's business. The current ruling class is not just hated, it is seen as illegitimate, among the younger generation this is even more extreme, with many openly hoping for a Franco.
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