Comments by "Franceyne Ireland" (@franceyneireland1633) on "Jake Broe"
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Canadian supplies dispatched to Russia included;
1,388 Valentine tanks (made in Angus Works in Quebec) initially were being made for the UK;
1,348 weapons carriers Canadian made in Oshawa (CMP) trucks modified to operate under -40F including the lorry a 3 ton 4x4; six pounder anti-tank portee, designed to carry a wheeled gun that can be fired from the vehicle or on the ground; 10 “Lake” class mine sweepers;
1,051 Hurricane aircraft fighters originally produced in Canada for the UK and 29 radar sets.
37,286 tons of aluminum.
10,000 tons of cordite,
27,000 tons of copper.
Non war materials included
882,482 tons of steel rails,
1,562 flatcar units,
3 complete plants of machine tools, 500 lathes, shapers and planers plus
3 copies of unique Canadian armoured snowmobiles.
Canada gifted the Russians the icebreaker Montcalm in order for the Soviets to keep the ports of Murmansk and Archangel open for deliveries from the western Allies;
125 Soviet vessels were repaired in the Canadian ports in the province of BC, which included provisions of sailors clothes, deck and engine room stores.
Agricultural aid of 9 million bushels of wheat to eighty tons of brome grass seed, which continued after the war in Europe ended to September 1945 of 28,000 tons of flour.
Fifty-six per cent, of all craft delivered to the Soviet Union from North American (US and Canada) were flown via the Alaska-Siberia route, thru airports in western Canada. A plant in Great Falls, Montana supplied the aircraft with the Soviet red star. By Sept 1942 a US Air Transport Command Head quarters was established in an airport Edmonton Alberta Canada, on 23 Sept 1943 that airport handled 860 different aircraft in a single day!
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I read an article that Turkey gave Ukraine cluster munitions in 2022. According to Cluster Munition Monitor 2022, the list of 16 countries that refuse to sign the convention and who produce cluster munitions included Brazil, China, Egypt, Greece, Iran, Israel, India, North Korea, Pakistan, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, the United States and Turkey. I don't know which other countries have refused to sign it but Ukraine has not signed the CCM but likely had not refused to sign it as Ukraine was not on the list who refused. I'm from Canada, if Canada was in the same position as Ukraine is right now, with Russians having used cluster munitions in Ukraine and on civilians for over a year, I'd want our military to use them on the Russians in their trenches and on their military equipment. Ukrainians are keeping records where they were used to clean up afterwards, besides they already have to clean up all the Russian mines.
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I agree this is a good alternative.The establishment of the NATO-Ukraine Council, where Ukraine and NATO Allies will meet as equals, hold crisis consultations, and jointly take decisions. I would like to see Ukraine be a member of Nato but there are complications to be considered. If Ukraine were to become a member now or be confirmed they'd be a member when the war ends, instead of exact time line, it's after conditions are met. My concerned is, would this incentivizes the Russians to fight harder and longer if it was when the war ends. Or would Putin then do everything in his power to destroy all of Ukraine, the old “If I can't have it, I''ll do everything in my power so nobody can have it or want it"'. Considering Putin's past actions, he is a man who only cares about himself , nor does he give a hoot for the people of Russia or the loss of Russian lives on the front lines. I believe NATO is aware of far more than the public is plus Nato is not fully informing the public about details and concerns as they don't want Putin to be aware.
If article 5 were to be revoked and NATO goes to war with Russia, with so many countries for years not spending on defence that they should have been, would those Nato members be able to defend themselves and also supply Ukraine with weapons that they are now doing?.
When evoking article 5 of NATO: This language is relatively flexible. It permits each NATO member to decide for itself what action should be taken to address an armed attack on a NATO ally. It does not require any member to respond with military force, although it permits such responses as a matter of international law. At this time Ukraine is getting a lot of financial aid, weapons, training and sophisticated surveillance from NATO countries plus from other non NATO countries. Only at this time Ukraine doesn't have NATO military boots on the ground, airspace is not closed and will not have F16's until a later date. (Personally I believe Ukraine will receive F16s sooner than later.)
If the war ends with all of Russia's military out of Ukraine, Ukraine will have to continue to have an armed military and surveillance and be prepared for another invasion by Russia. Russia can't be trusted, as it has broken past treaties and agreements, is dishonest and reinvents history.
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@grahamcampbell8297 As a Canadian I agree, Canada has the natural resources to restart the manufacturing of armaments but has fallen so far behind as it hasn't done so since the late 1950's. Canada during WW2 manufactured major armaments such as tanks, bombers and fighter planes which were made for and shipped to the UK, built ships and corvettes for the escort duty of merchant ships, converted ships for troop transport and had pilot training for Canadian and British pilots.
After Germany invaded the Soviet Union. Canada gifted the Russians the icebreaker Montcalm. Canada repaired 125 Soviet vessels in Canada which included provisions of sailors clothes, deck and engine room stores. 1,388 Valentine tanks; 1,348 weapons carriers; 29 radar sets; 10 “Lake” class mine sweepers; 1,051 Hurricane aircraft fighters; 37,286 tons of aluminum; 27,000 tons of copper; 882,482 tons of steel rails; 1,562 flatcar units; 3 complete plants of machine tools, 500 lathes, shapers and planers; 3 copies of unique Canadian armoured snowmobiles. Agricultural aid of 9 million bushels of wheat to eighty tons of brome grass seed, which continued after the war in Europe ended to September 1945 of 28,000 tons of flour. Which was less than what the US supplied the Soviets. By Sept 1942 a US Air Transport Command Head quarters was established in an airport Edmonton Alberta Canada, on 23 Sept 1943 that airport handled 860 different planes in a single day! Although I believe the Allied countries, became allies with one evil the Soviets in order to defeat another evil the Nazis. As Patton warned—loudly and insistently "that leaving Eastern Europe in Soviet hands, despite Stalin's peaceful pledges, would betray an American promise."
Former Prime Minister Diefenbaker cut Canada's military defence from 5% of GDP to about 2% of GDP over six years 1957-1964. That was due as Diefenbaker agreed to stop manufacturing major armaments as the US wanted to have the bulk of military spending and responsibility of all of the military manufacturing. At the time nobody would have thought there would be likes of Trump as a President or that US wouldn't stand up for democracy against dictatorships.
When Trump was president he didn't act as an ally to Canada, I believe his comment he would encourage Russia to do “whatever the hell they want”, he was referring to Canada, as Canada has not reached 2% of it's GDP on defence. April 2021 Putin formally enlarged Russia's claim to the seabed in the Arctic Ocean all the way to Canada's and Greenland's (Denmark's) exclusive zones. A situation where Putin's claiming Canadian and Danish continental shelf as the Russian continental shelf. With the ice retreating Putin wants to control the Arctic sea routes and the natural resources of the Arctic. Which is why in the last decade or so, he has built eight modern military bases, fully equipped with nuclear icebreakers, nuclear subs, airstrips and nuclear weapons. There are some Americans who to want to be isolationists and appear not to be concerned about Europe, I wonder how'd they feel about having Canada as neighbour that is occupied by Russia?
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I read up on Zelensky although he was a comedian or actor, he has a law degree and was successful in creating a production company which produced films, cartoons, TV shows and TV Series. He is Jewish, his first language is Russian ( I assume that is due because he was born in 1978 when Ukraine was under the USSR where education was only permitted in Russian) is fluent in Ukrainian and was fluent in English by age 16. He goes out on the battlefield to talk to Ukrainian military and is excellent during speeches when he is addressing the international countries. His father is a professor and computer scientist and the head of the Department of Cybernetics and Computing Hardware at a University in Ukraine and his mother worked as a engineer. His grandfather Zelensky, was colonel in the Red Army during WW2, whose father and brothers died during the Holocaust. His great grandparents had been killed after German troops burned their home to the ground during a massacre.
Zelensky won the election with a landslide vote, and 73% of the vote in the second round. During his administration, social polls in Ukraine have ranked Zelensky among Ukraine's greatest presidents. Zelensky oversaw the lifting of the legal immunity for members of parliament and made progress in tackling corruption in Ukraine. Zelensky's party proposed reforms to Ukraine's media laws with the intent to increase competition and loosen the dominance of Ukrainian oilgarchs on television and radio broadcasters. A bill creating a public registry of Ukraine's oligarchs, banning them from participating in privatizations of state owned companies, and forbidding them from contributing financially to politicians. Passed a bill updating and reforming Ukraine's referendum laws, which Ukraine's Court had declared unconstitutional in 2018 (Fixing the referendum law had been one of Zelensky's campaign promises).
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@lastkidonthemoon You are right. Malaysia airline Flight 17 was shot down in July 2014 in Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine by a Russian-made 9N314M-type warhead carried on the 9M38M1 missile from the metal fragments found in the in the bodies of the crew.. In 2016, an international joint investigation team (JIT) determined that MH17 was shot down by a Russian Buk antiaircraft system that had been brought to a farm field near Pervomaiskyi in Eastern Ukraine at the time controlled by separatists and on the same day returned to Russia, minus one missile after the passenger airliner was shot down. The JIT later determined the Buk had been provided by the Russian 53rd Anti-aircraft Brigade based in Kursk, Russia. JIT sought and heard witnesses (including citizens from Kurk Russia) and experts, analyzed radar and satellite images, assessed large amounts of telecom data such as intercepted telephone conversations and analyzed data.
In 2019 Dutch courts charged in absentia three Russians and one Ukrainian for the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. In 2022 two Russians and one Ukrainian were convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison and ordered to pay E16m in compensation to the victims. They are: Sergei Dubinsky who is linked to Russian intelligence & separatists' military intelligence chief was found to have ordered and overseen the transport of the Buk missile launcher; Russian Igor Girkin (alias Igor Ivanovich Strelkov), a former Russian Intelligence, colonel of GRU, (Russia's external military intelligence organization) and the military leader of the so-called Donetsk People's Republic was convicted of deploying the missile and seeking Russian help; Ukrainian separatist Leonid Kharchenko was found to have overseen the Buk, acting on Dubinsky's instructions all three were convicted for shooting down MH17. Russian Oleg Pulatov (ex-Russian special forces soldier) was charged was acquitted for lack of evidence.
Russia being a permanent member of the UN Social Security veto to block a draft resolution that would have created an international tribunal to prosecute those responsible for bringing down this flight. Under Article 61 of the Russia's constitution, a Russian citizen can not be extradited to another state, while the one Ukrainian has been given Russian citizenship. Therefore there likely will be no justice for those on board Flight MH17, 298 from 17 countries including 80 children , 196 were from the Netherlands, 43 from Malaysia, 38 from Australia and 10 from the UK. The Dutch and Australian governments, which hold Russia responsible, have started a proceeding against the Russian Federation at the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). Andy Kraag, the head of the police investigation, said research was continuing into possible other suspects, including higher in the chain of command. Investigators are also looking at the crew of the missile system which launched the fatal rocket.
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I assume there is still information held back but since the use of internet a lot more information is available now. During WW2 there was information that had a media blackout, but back then Canada was at war with Germany. The quote, "Loose lips sinks ships." My dad signed up at the beginning of WW2 with the Canadian army, my parents married in 1940, had a delayed honeymoon in '41 in Niagara Falls when my dad was posted near by, my mom also visited my dad when he was posted to the US in '42. My dad never talked about the war. Then 2 years after his death, my mom and I were watching a TV special about Canada's contribution to WW2, suddenly my mom went so white, (I thought she was having a heart attack). I asked her if she was alright, she managed to say "Your dad was posted there". Up to that point a lot of things about my dad's war service hadn't made sense, such as his battalion being on a train, when they reached the first station, there was orders for only my dad to disembark and to return. He was posted to the US in '42, his general came to his funeral and he received posthumous the Queen's Jubilee metal etc. My father took his secrets to the grave, which was over 30 years after the war ended.
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