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@riannebaker2415 I do want the truth, always. What you’re offering is to believe things that are not true, and for which you have no reason to claim they are true. You’re not helping me by suggesting to use faith. In fact, you’re not even having honest discussion. Why can’t I use faith to believe no gods exist? Why can’t I use faith to believe in Vishnu, or Odin? If you talk to God, as you claim….ask him what you can say that would convince me. And only respond when he tells you.
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@riannebaker2415 You should stop assuming you’re right.
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@riannebaker2415 You haven’t answered my question on faith. When a Hindu uses faith for their beliefs that multiple gods exist, does it get them to truth? When a person uses faith to believe in Allah, does that mean Allah is also real? I realize Allah and Yahweh both come from the Abrahamic god myths, but so does Judaism. So if someone who is Jewish uses faith that the savior has not yet been sent by god, is it true?
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@Desicuevas I don’t think I am a god, so retract your claim. And yes, my morality is based on well being over suffering. According to biblical doctrine, your god cares very little about human suffering. But you still can’t provide evidence that any god, or the devil exists. The world is evidence of the world. You can’t just claim it is evidence of a devil. Besides, according to your doctrine, your gods is responsible for creating evil, creating the devil, and would,be powerful enough to stop evil, but doesn’t. Your believing a god exists doesn’t make your god a reality. You don’t have evidence that Adam and Eve existed. All you have are claims. Remember, the Bible is a book of claims, and those claims require evidence. This planet doesn’t depend on my opinion, but your opinions are demonstrably false. So go ahead and admit you don’t have evidence for your god or for a devil. Be honest.
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@riannebaker2415 Are you familiar with Disney’s Dumbo story? The mouse gave Dumbo a magic feather that convinced him could make fly…. But he didn’t really need the feather.
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@joniberry3257 Joni, I spent years of my life being a believer. I even attended Seminary. Don’t you think that perhaps I tried that? In thirty years of really meaning it, I never got a response. If what you say is true, then there obviously isn’t a god, and now you have a broken promise. And think this through. Don’t you think Muslims say the same thing about Allah? And Hindus say similar things about their gods? Also, I know of many people who have done this, and really felt like God revealed himself to them. And they spend many years as true believers. But later realized they were deceiving themselves. So, everything about your claim is false. Do you have anything better than self deception as evidence?
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@Desicuevas You can pray all you like for me to stop what I do. But prayers work at about the same rate as chance. And there is no chance I will stop being better informed than you. There is only hope you decide to be intellectually honest. Oh sure, you try to insult be but sincerely wish magic blessing on me. I don’t buy it, believer.
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@myettryet70 You’re lying.
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@rmason5477 That is nonsense. Things seem bad, but between 1339 and 1945 during WWII there were a thousand people dying per hour. If you consider all of history, has there been a time where we have had better access to freedom, education, medicine, or food? And if your god had the power to help, and doesn’t…. Then even Spider-man is a more moral fictional character.
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@rmason5477 Prayer works at about the same rate as chance. In this case, the only chance of convincing me a god exists is with evidence. And you can’t provide any.
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@rmason5477 One makes a slave of one’s self? Really? It was your god that made slavery permissible by law. And in the Bible, when your god order men, boys and women with children slaughtered, taking the virgin girls as slaves… We’re they making slaves of themselves? Your comments are an example of the harm religion does.
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@alfredwilsbury8397 I agree, people often rely more on emotions than reason. It seems religion capitalizes on this, encouraging people that believing without evidence is somehow virtuous, and adds the threat of torment for even questioning. I regularly spectate conversations where people’s beliefs are investigated. If you haven’t heard of Street Epistemology, I recommend Anthony Magnabosco’s channel. I appreciate your comment. Peace and reason.
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@12jkp59 Some people actually understand what science is, how it works, and why it is reliable. People that don’t know better believe in magic, and conspiracies.
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@alfredwilsbury8397 I also recommend The Atheist Experience, and Talk Heathen shows for various conversations from people about what they believe, and why they believe it.
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@adiblatif Does your god also say slavery is lawful?
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@saintmikey9103 How do you know a whole nation saw him? Is that based on hearsay from a single person?
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@rmason5477 Sort of like Dumbo’s magic feather, from the Disney story. Yea?
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@rufusking430 Franklin was a man of science, and knew what questions to ask. Question authority is good. Assuming you know better can be problematic. Especially of you don’t understand science, or simply reject it.
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@akhandhan6620 Yawn.
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@gailclough1665 McDonald’s isn’t contagious. Right?
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@kevinwest1607 I watch the news regularly. It isn’t evidence that a supernatural being exists. Not in the slightest. Bad things happening is part of a natural world. It is what we would expect if no gods exist, and is no evidence to the contrary. Consider: Can you name any time throughout history where we have had better access to freedom, education, medication, and food? So how,is today’s news relevant? Are you aware that during WWII, there was a six year period where almost a thousand lives were lost per hour? That is horrible, but it isn’t today’s news. By your same argument, are you suggesting there is also an all powerful god that could stop bad things from happening, and chooses not to?
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@kevinwest1607 Please don’t say you were ever like me. It can’t be accurate, and it comes off as dishonest. Also, by saying “worse” you’re suggesting it is bad. That’s rude. No offense meant. I’m sure your experience is very important to you. I was once a believer, and I even attended Seminary. So I doubt very much much you were like me. Please consider: Faith means believing without evidence, right? Faith is used by different people to accept different gods, right? Muslims and Hindus use faith as well, would you agree? And people of those faiths also offer similar arguments about having awful periods but pulled through. Faith can be used to justify any belief, regardless whether or not the belief is true. It does serve to bolster confidence in the belief, even if the belief is false. So I find faith to be problematic, especially because I care whether or not my beliefs are true. Also, Letting go of my religion has helped me through tough times, as it has for other non-believers.
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@Jona7Fer These are claims. Can you offer any demonstration that your delusions comport with reality? No…you certainly can’t. Don’t Muslims make similar claims, also without evidence? “Sin” is a concept which is absurd anyway. Being a human doesn’t make people bad. Being religious does.
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@saintmikey9103 I’m probably better aware of most Abrahamic religions than you are. After all, I attended Seminary, and I bet you didn’t. You don’t have “many witnesses”, as you claim. You have one hearsay account claiming there were many witnesses. What you’re suggesting was passed down you must acknowledge was passed down like a game of “telephone” for several decades before it was ever written down. Not only that, you don’t even have original transcripts of what was first written down. And the earliest copies of those transcripts that we do have are a few fragments smaller than an index card. Right?
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@Jona7Fer What do we need to be saved from? Eternal torment orchestrated by an immoral god, that you can’t demonstrate even exists?
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@Jona7Fer Even if there is a god, your god’s view on morality would be subjective. Just as your opinions about gods are subjective. And since you can’t demonstrate any gods actually exist, morality would necessarily be subjective. Right up until the point we agree that morality is about well being versus suffering. At that point, if we agree that well being is better than suffering…then we can agree some things are objectively immoral. Slavery is an example. Murder is an example. If you don’t care about well being, then you don’t fit well into society. This may be a subjective opinion, but most agree…which is why we maintain laws. So morality seems to be the result of evolution, like everything else about humanity.
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@Jona7Fer I prefer to hold as many true beliefs and as few false ones as possible. Which is why when people make unsubstantiated claims, those claims get rejected. If your best evidence is nothing more than a delusion, it isn’t convincing.
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@saintmikey9103 Diapers are used for sanitary and hygiene purposes. It’s odd that you’re pro-disease.
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@seraphinastringer908 Great, great. Except, I’ve attended Seminary. I’ve read the Bible multiple times. I likely have better knowledge and understand the Bible better than most people that suggest reading the Bible. Guess what? The answers to my questions aren’t in the Bible. Keep in mind, the Bible isn’t evidence. The Bible makes claims for which evidence would be needed, and doesn’t exist.
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@angelabird85 Lucid dreaming isn’t a realigned,pathway to truth. If you don’t care whether or not your beliefs are true, then lucid dreaming is good for you. The problem is, using that method, one can be convinced many gods exist, or no gods exist. Just like faith. And if you’re trying to contact a god, you were already convinced. Dreams can be interesting, but they aren’t useful in measuring reality. Neither are magic mushrooms. And claiming you were once a hardcore atheist isn’t relevant whatsoever.
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@GRIM_MOD 99% of those dying from the virus are unvaccinated, according to the evidence. So, yes…the vaccination works. The claim isn’t that it prevents being infected. It reduces the risk. It significantly reduces the chances of severe symptoms and death. I’m curious how people still don’t grasp this after all these months.
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@GRIM_MOD It isn’t a lie. And 1000%? This demonstrates that you don’t understand how reality works, and that your emotions run your beliefs, instead of your intellect. Hospitalized isn’t the same as dying from, right? Over use of the vaccine can’t cause a super bug. You’re confusing a virus with bacteria. Your lack of understanding demonstrates only your incredulity. Allowing the virus to persist allows for variants to come about. It’s a shame you don’t understand evolution.
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@nellyespinosa4254 I’m not attacking anyone. I’m asking questions. So stop attacking me. There is good reason for having civil discourse, whether you’re aware of it or not. If you want to participate, I’m happy to oblige. If not, then you can move along. However, people’s beliefs inform their actions.
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@dianabruijn8283 I’m not looking in any specific direction. If you can’t offer evidence, and can only make vague claims, then you believe things without good reason. Science can measure energy. Sol can we measure social conditioning? Sure. Is there good reason to call it “the devil”. No. Particularly when there is so much supernatural baggage that is tied to such a title. Clearly, people mean different things than what you suggest. So, it’s not the “bigger picture” that is a problem. It’s clear terminology.
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@bildonwalker9430 No you don’t. That isn’t how it works.
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@mark777myers All the evidence and data says otherwise. This is where a better understanding of science, and a preference to hold true beliefs, would be of value to you.
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@marcjanverdelantar9605 I don’t need really your permission or approval to live as I do. I prefer to hold as many true beliefs and as few false beliefs as possible. Broad brushing an equivocation isn’t useful. If you care to engage in discussion, perhaps modify your approach.
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@marcjanverdelantar9605 I never made any such assertion. Looks like you’re not even decent enough to have honest dialog. Good thing you felt the need to delete your post.
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@marcjanverdelantar9605 I don’t need a lecture from someone who doesn’t understand that not all beliefs deserve respect. Do you think the beliefs of the KKK or White Supremacists deserve respect? Do you? I can be respectful to people who hold different beliefs. I have shown that in my posts. I have shown it far better then your lack of toleration for my posts. But I am under no obligation to respect terrible doctrine that supports the notion of slavery or inequality.
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@M Z So, you’d value the evidence showing how heavily censored sources are? Because I’d like to see it. Or do you reject that evidence as somehow censored too? Or are you suggesting nobody should believe anything, ever…because all claims have equal merit? The reality is, we do indeed have reliable methods for measuring reality. And science deniers don’t seem to understand this.
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@slavenrasic2173 So. You’re here on a science based computer device, over a science based internet to support the notion that science is unreliable? Sounds like you might be someone who denies science based on your own incredulity. Do you have anything of value to contribute?
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@Krioque I’m sure the evidence you have is overwhelming.
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@Krioque There are some problems with your question. A vaccination isn’t a cure. It’s a preventative measure. Also, you’re assuming it was man made. But even if there was a sinister group that created this virus with intent, the reasons the vaccinations were created remain the same. Is your question asking why any vaccinations are developed? It seems to reduce suffering and death as much as possible. The question you should be asking is whether your epistemology is sound.
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@Krioque I’m sure your belief in magic allows you to have special access to information the rest of the world just can’t see. Like your gods.
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@Krioque The entire world? It’s all over the internet? Get a grip. Reality matters.
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@Krioque So, I’m two,years you will have evidence that you don’t have? Sure. And Jesus is coming back any day now… Any day. Tru p will be reinstated any day now…. Any day. Well… We’re waiting. crickets
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@Krioque Seems to me like your posts are evidence of having done meth. Certainly more so than a life saving vaccine. You’re not supposed to snort the koolaid.
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@annehedonia156 So you’re using your magical gifts of prophecy to make predications based on nothing more than your own incredulity. You’re convinced, without evidence….correct? You don’t have evidence to support your claims for side effects that have not yet occurred. But you might in two or three years? And what of all the data so far?
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@annehedonia156 Smallpox inarguably shaped the course of human history by killing countless millions in both the Old World and the New World. Dr. Edward Jenner's discovery of vaccination in the late 18th century, and the global eradication of smallpox in the 1970s, rank among the greatest achievements in human history.
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@annehedonia156 You’re projecting, deliberately missing the point. You can’t make an assessment that side effects will be present in two or three years. You’re also neglecting the number of lives saved. Do you get some emotional satisfaction referring to the vaccine as a jab? Do you form your world view based on a lack of credible evidence?
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