Comments by "Moon Shoes" (@moonshoes11) on "The New York Times" channel.

@spinninginspace How could you know the difference between a god that doesn’t exist, and a god that hides his existence?
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@caroldesarnoNeNe45 We have fields of study for geology and biology. None have uncovered evidence for any gods. The very examples you’ve given have natural explanations, and require no gods. If your best evidence is that one day when we die, we will find out…that means you don’t yet have evidence. And you’re convinced for no good reason.
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@linakhalid2700 Evil is evidence of evil. Not the supernatural. My standards of evidence are more critical.
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@blessed2338 I’ve done this. No response after more than 30 years. Can I now assume he doesn’t want me to think he exists, or maybe doesn’t exist? I disagree that the best thing you can do is ask yourself internally a question and expect a reliable result. If this method were reliable, we wouldn’t here similar claims from Muslims, and Mormons alike.
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@spinninginspace You make a lot of claims. What reason is there to conclude those claims are true?
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@spinninginspace If that is all the evidence you need, then you’re convinced for poor reasons. Those reasons you listed, nature and love, as far as we know…are the result of natural processes. We see natural processes unfold every day. You’re making a claim it is the result of a god, but what you don’t have is any way to connect a god to natural processes. I get it, you’re convinced. You have more confidence in a belief than the evidence warrants, or so it seems.
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@spinninginspace If you thought you were being skeptical, you were doing it wrong. Part of skepticism is measuring your confidence to the evidence. If person A says “my god exists, just ask him”, and person B says “my god exists, just ask him” but they believe in different gods….you should be able to see why “just ask him” isn’t a reliable pathway to whether or not any gods exist. Which of the gods do you consider all knowing and worthy of worship? Where are you getting any information about this god? Does your god allow for doctrine that permits immoral things, such as slavery? Is an immoral imaginary being really worthy or worship? See, your “seek and you shall find him” is utter nonsense. You’re assuming I haven’t. I’m just not convinced by poor arguments. I was raised to believe, and I even attended Seminary. It’s likely that I pursued an understanding for more critically than you, and far more than most believers. But when you best argument can be used by believers of Vishnu, Allah, and Odin, your best argument is insufficient.
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@spinninginspace Even your “just look at the trees” argument can be used by believers of any and every god. I hope you see how that makes it useless in pursuit of truth.
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@pahukolofoou Suggesting it was a “who” that “created” things is not the best way to ask the questions. You’re presupposing off was a who, not a what. You’re presupposing intention by creating. Some things are a natural result, natural processes. Most things are. We have countless examples. We have no examples of supernatural processes. That is just reality.
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@pahukolofoou You did it again. Suggesting nothing is created by nothing. On this we can agree. The problem is, as far as anyone can show, you’re god is literally nothing. And again, your personal incredulity isn’t relevant. You personally don’t understand how natural processes work, therefore you apply “god” to your lack on understanding, the gap in your knowledge. I genuinely understand this better than you do. The only failure here is yours.
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@pahukolofoou So, let’s just pretend your imaginary friend exists… Therefore your imaginary friend exists. This is your best argument?
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@pahukolofoou I wonder about the unknown a lot. I just don’t pretend to have answers that I don’t have. I don’t assert answers when there is t evidence to support them. If you want honest and intellectual dialog, stop being rude and stop pretending you know things you don’t. I don’t think there is reason to jump to a who, and I don’t see any reason to justify referring to existence as a creation. You certainly cannot demonstrate any such creator. Right? You keep insisting there is a “who”, which is fallacious. You don’t know there is a who behind it. Why would you assume there is? Just because you don’t have an answer, or in your case…because you can’t understand the answers we do have, doesn’t mean we should just assume any gods exist.
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@pahukolofoou Ok, I can help you to understand what an argument from incredulity is, or you can look it up. You should also make yourself aware of what the burden of proof means, and what shifting the burden of proof means. But going on and on with an insane rant about being a child of god, and a process of god isn’t helpful. If indeed your god doesn’t exist, then your claims are just childish rants. And since you can’t demonstrate your god exists, you have a serious problem. Just like every other believers, from every other religion….making claims about gods without evidence. Now, are you interested in honest dialog without making a bunch of unsubstantiated claims?
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@pahukolofoou I think I do understand where you’re coming from. You presuppose a “who” was responsible for existence, and that this “who” intentionally created existence. Is this incorrect? Then you claim you know a god exists. You don’t know this, and can’t show this. You just really, really, believe it. And you do so without warrant. Your only argument is that since you don’t have answers, you presume the correct answer is a god. But you can’t offer evidence. You just say “this is too complicated for a princess to understand, so it must be magic”. And that is pretty sad.
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@pahukolofoou I understand that we have brains, and can think for ourselves. There is evidence to support this. Is there evidence your god has a brain? Nope.
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@pahukolofoou Remember, your lack of understanding isn’t evidence for any gods. Claiming you know isn’t evidence. People claim they know other gods exist. Allah, Vishnu, Odin. Can you offer any demonstration that a god exists? And that it is your particular god? And is it the god of the Bible?
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@pahukolofoou Would you be willing to call the talk show and explain what you know about god, and why you believe it? Sunday, there are two shows, Talk Heathen and The Atheist Experience. Both are YouTube shows which allows callers a chance to explain why they believe. Can you do this?
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@brandongonzales1958 Oh yes, I’ve dedicated my life to your imagined adversary. One that neither of us have any reason to be convinced exists. That checks out.
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@blackbutterfly3248 Believers don’t have to prove anything to me. But it isn’t about whether the have to and more about whether they can. And not to me, but at all. See, the standard you’re suggesting means…if someone were to claim they discovered BigFoot, but cannot offer evidence to support their claim…would to believe them? By your standard, you can’t prove Vishnu doesn’t exist, right? And if your best argument for the existence of something is that we can’t prove it isn’t true, then I’d say your belief isn’t rational.
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@DIYTFY There yo I go being dishonest again. You neglected relevant and critical information. That is dishonest. If you’re insulted because you were called out for dishonesty, then so be it. This isn’t about whether you disagree with me. This is about your neglecting factual data and providing a misleading narrative. Do better.
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