Comments by "sharper68" (@sharper68) on "The Jimmy Dore Show" channel.

  1. Talking fast and spitting straw men is not the winning argument you think it is.
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  2. Bishma Wood Nonsense, the only people who think Shapiro is clever are those who already like his right wing talking points and straw men he consistently leans heavily on. He is no more clever than any other troll who talks quickly crushing clueless students and no one else The idea this guy is a super power is fact free. Cons already hate jimmy your imagination of others abandoning him do to sitting in the same room as a guy with unpopular poorly thought out ideas is a not attached to reality.
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  3. Mellow to each thier own views but I have been wholly unimpressed by his defense of bad unpopular ideas with little more than well delived talking points. please direct me to some of his good arguments that were meaningful to you as what I see him doing is crushing poorly prepared kids who let his straw men stand unchallenged giving him freedom to control the narrative glossing over his arguments root failures. in this case at the very best his tweet was a mean spirited and ignorant willfully or othwise, at worst it is ugly glib obscufaction of the fact people are going to die because of policy he supports. to answer your question, when one wants to be thought of as a deep thinker making a comment that misses the point this badly undermines that narrative. he deserves to called on it. with talking points this bad buddy is not even trying to debate. toe to toe he would have his metaphorical head torn off in a debate if this was his weak spin. pretending this king of the straw man is not about name calling as his chief tactic is misrepresentation is empty.
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  4. We were never going to war with Russia, but if trump tears up the Iran deal as promised we will be bombing them soon.
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  5. Bobby Fett Ben does not care about health care for those who can not afford it (remember it is just like a sofa) He would step over their bodies in the gutter as long as his insurance company buddies made their bucks.
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  6. John McNamara He got stomped as his argument is base stupid. It pretends getting a surgery is like buying a couch set and anyone with a working brain understands that one is a choice and the other is forced upon you. No one chooses the expensive surgery they can not afford out of greed but because they NEED IT to live. Ignoring this critical difference between these respective products is the root of his failure and marks his spin as painfully weak at best. The fact is all his arguments outside his bubble of support are considered weak because they consist of straw men and misappropriated out of context data. His supported policies are universally unpopular for a good reason. They are hard to defend without misrepresenting and ignoring the other argument and that is why you rarely see guys like Ben going toe to toe with anyone but collage kids. I would love to see him debate anyone who is informed and am looking forward to seeing him get stepped on. The fact is if your evaluation is any indication his fan boys will declare a victory no matter what.
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  7. Where did all the trolls come from?
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  8. +K Lee The only way this happens is if we get corporate money out as the driver of our elections. There are bi partisan movements made of self declared liberals and consertives who both agree that our leaders being for sale is not what we want.  80% of all Americans feel that money has an unfair influence on politics.  The will of the people is behind this and as it turns out we do not even need to talk to the federal government (who is wholly owned) to do it.
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  9. Mellow as far as I am concerned in this case his Tweet was stupid. one can not dismiss someone by simply name calling them dumb but when they say something that completely misses the point they earn the handle based on their own failure. there is nothing wrong with calling this tweet stupid and it is a actually a pretty mild attack as he treats life saving surgery as the same thing as buying something you simply want. this is either stupid spin or dishonest spin that marks him as a bad person. calling him dumb in this case gives him the benefit of the doubt. I will watch the video you mentioned but I suspect I have seen them before parroted by tolls in a less polished way. thanks for the tip though, in the future you might want to lay off the uslees adhom of calling your opponent biased while pretending to advocate for debate and discussion as it undermines your point.
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  10. Aydan D Ben consistently makes emotional arguments based on his feelings. The statistics you clowns cite are regularly out of context and often do not agree with the premise you argue. Making health care into a bigger commodity makes no sense as all the fucking data points to the fact that public systems are more efficient and deliver care to everyone. There is literally no upside to our system and it fails because of it's free market nature, the profit motive and lack of cost control. Bernie's polices are in line with the rest of the first world who all has better health care results than us at half the cost to consumers. According to actual real world data we know what lowers costs and it is telling that no system on the planet successfully uses your model. Stop pretending to base your claims on facts, news flash you do not have any.
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  11. He is a cold asshole to make this comparison but it paints him as a sack of shit who means to be stupid and obtuse or he is not as sharp as you think he is.
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  12. Joshua Bell He uses spun faux logic and cheery picked out of context stats to back up his spin. That you like what he says is why he has fans as he represents a line of thought that is hard to defend and consistently is on the retreat or hiding behind a straw man and adhoms to attack anyone that disagree's. That you like him does not mean he is principled and regularly uses name calling and blatant straw men to misrepresent his opponents. That you think he uses logic and data is only because it is such a rare thing that a con even refers to them you assume (out of hope I guess) his arguments are sound. That does not make your assessment correct and Ben stomping collage kids is not as compelling proof of his debating strength that you imagine it is.
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  13. That you clowns ignore who was in the house and Senate is hilarious. The clintons were bad because they went along with GOP (Donor) policy and "triangulated" to be more like them. The GOP is fully corrupt, the clintons are famous because they were the democrats who were most successful copying them.
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  14. Demo5 lol, he is going to be a rubber stamp for what ever Heritage foundation Koch sucking thing thier donors paid them to do.
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  15. We know why they lost. The DNC pushed an establishment candidate with huge baggage in a cycle where the voters wanted someone new. They disenfranchised half their voters by ramming a GOP light candidate down their throat and many stayed home instead of supporting her. The Trump voters were motivated to vote for trump because they liked him, Hillary voters did not really like her they were primarily voting against trump. If you put passion against disdain, passion will win each time.
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  16. SpeedyRemake Well I have learned anyone who uses the term "Young Turds" is generally empty and no one should care what you think as it is likely you are part of the problem.
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  17. Glen Baker If you say so,  my guess is you are one of the clowns who like this fact free bullshit.  I am ok and that you imagine that it even scratched me is just you playing wishful thinking.  I am not down or resting, but thanks for the briefly civil thoughts I know that must have been hard for you. 
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  18. The Cutmeister There are lots of video's showing him "debating the issue" and they systematically tear his arguments and straw men apart. His spin is weak and you do not have to look very hard to find well thought out responses that eviscerate him as he steps on poorly prepared debate weak college kids that are steam rolled by his style generally devoid of honest substance. I get it you like him as he says things you agree with. This does not make him a good debater and that you imagine his arguments are rock solid is only because you have not bothered to look for them being countered. His spin is not nearly as good as you imagine it is and he rely's on rhetorical tricks and verbal misdirection much more than facts.
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  19. That is exactly what I expect them to do.
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  20. +LeftismIsForFaggots  Who cares how many? Canada ended its joint combat missions day 1 and the sane consider that a step forward.   I noticed and am happy we are not wasting resources on the policy that has been failing since GB's invasion of Iraq.   You spin is predictably stupid.
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  21. Dude you did not .. you never made a solid point and played empty platitudes about morality while ignoring your spin litterally kills people. You did not answer any of my charges and used empty talking points not connected to reality. The best systems in the world are universally pubic and ignoring that truth to talk about unproven nonsense that empowers a handful of greedy assholes at your own expense is empty. The only #fatality is the people you kill with your spin.
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  22. The republicans have not been either. And you should not expect them to be based on thier entire rhetoric. Watch what they do and this TPP thing is pretty encouraging but I am not holding my breath a version will not be put through. Keeps your eyes on this as I do not expect it to last.
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  23. There seems to be an abundance of pro Putin trolls around for sure.
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  24. luvcheney1 You offer choice between "force" as you define it where I pay less, everyone is covered and there are no copays and a system that leaves the poor to die , sky rockets prices and charges double what those in public systems pay bankrupting a hundred thousand Americans a year. Selling the idea that insurance is a "voluntary" product is tough being that you if do not purchase it you will doom you or a supported family member to death or guarantee your bankruptcy. Health care is not a "nice to have" you should opt into as everyone will need it at some point in their lives and those who do not buy into insurance cost us all more later in emergency room care anyway. The right to opt out for "freedom" and against "coercion" at the cost of actual lives and all our public funds while we are charged double what someone in a public system pays is tough to sell as the moral high ground. The idea we should throw our elderly under the bus is another tough idea to sell to the sane. Arguing against health care as a right is going to be hard as your position boils down to we should let the poor and their children die because they can not afford insurance. You argue we should bankrupt and leave our seniors to die who are just retiring to fixed incomes after contributing to society their whole lives just as they move into a stage of life they need care the most. You are on no moral high ground and need to stop pretending you are with your faux outrage at inequity and a nonsense definition of fair. The key difference between a public and private system is who administers the fund and that everyone is included. Like all insurance the bigger the pool the more the risks and costs are mitigated for the whole group, the public system is the biggest insurance pool you can get. The system takes the pressure off business from providing health care and allows them to focus on what is important. It eliminates mountains pointless expensive bureaucracy and overhead created by the many insurance companies and consolidates it into one non profit organization focused on providing care not making money (gasp). It gives workers the freedom to take any job without worrying about having to find care on their own. That some clowns are not making billions off being middle men while providing no value does not concern me in the slightest. Paying half of what I pay now to the government instead of an insurance company is hardly onerous especially as now all Americans will be covered. I am surprised you use the term redistribution of wealth (and it is clear you support it in its current form) as it has been happening to us for the last 40 years, it would be nice to see it go the other way for a while. The wealth of the middle class has been redistributed to the rich and they have never been richer while the comfortable working class shrinks. The idea the mega rich who are absorbing all our gains should be paying more will never bring a tear to my eye especially as it puts more money in the hands of actual working people while ensuring we no longer deny care based on wallet size.
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  25. Why not?
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  26. eyeseethroughyou Of course, they just seem very thick in this particular set of vids. 
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  27. mahesh samaru Health care is never free and you pay for it with whatever taxes you pay. Your little county is not exactly typical example of universal care or that of a first world nation. Every single first world nation with this type of health care is BETTER rated than us while paying far less. That your country can not do it well does not mean we are doomed to the same fate and there are plenty of better analogs than your system for models. We ration care too except the difference is we base it on the size of your wallet and people dying because they can not afford it marks our system as backward as any other on the system. Nothing is free and paying half of what you do now while getting better results is a path that everyone should be chasing. You should worry about the apparent big problems in your own system before suggesting giving advice as your spin is not informed and does not make sense in context.
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  28. mahesh samaru Ya it based off first world models but as I pointed out to your associate that being small is a disadvantage in any insurance pool. It means it is harder mitigate costs so that it is failing in your tiny market is no reason to assume it will with us as our market is huge and already proves it can support the costs we are already paying. The fact is removing the profit motive from the system, negotiating common prices with providers and reducing the exorbitant cost of drugs in the us will save us trillions. ALL of the first world countries have better health care ratings than us (and much better than you). They are a much better analog to what single payer means than your example. You do not have the common experience of other the large single payer countries and your opinion when it comes to what they succeed in doing is ill informed. Your taxation talking point is silly because this system would see MORE money in the hands of the people not less. That Canadians pay higher taxes than the US is balanced by the fact the Americans pay twice as much for health care and that comes out both taxes and their pockets. Arguing for the right to pay less taxes but more for the service is not only counter intuitive it literately does not make sense. Under this system the rich do pay more depending on how much they make and those like poor children pay nothing. It is system that is prioritized on need not how fat your or your guardians wallet is. Forty thousand people are dying in the US a year because they can not afford care and medical issues are number one reason for bankruptcy. That number in the rest of the first world is zero.
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  29. Joshua Bell We already pay for this service it is NOT GOING TO COST US MORE! It is just a matter of changing the way we collect and distribute the health care dollars we are ALREADY SPENDING! This takes money we flush down the drain of incompetent insurance companies and apply it against a system that is focused on delivering health care not making a profit for next quarter. Your claims we can not do it because of "immigrants" is just more nonsense that has already been mitigated by the systems that use it. Go try to use a hospital in Canada as an "illegal immigrant" without a health card, see how that works for you. You have not addressed a single argument I have made and your stupid "Socialism = Failure/Immorality" is vapid and empty as you seem to be unable to make an actual argument.
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  30. mahesh samaru This is not a pie in the sky idea and it has many proven analogs that show properly managed it works. What does not work as demonstrated by reality is a the system you advocate for if you are remotely concerned about quality accessible health care for everyone and not just the rich. If you are concerned about working families being economically decimated by an accident or illness they have no control of even when they have been paying for insurance. If you are concerned about the quality of health care for poor and lower middle class children our system fucks over for no fault of their own. The root issue is that it is not based on need but their parents ability to pay killing some of them all to protect a trumped up faux moral outrage about theft. You asserting the practices in Europe are failing is not backed up by the facts. They produce better results than we do while spending less and pretending they are "failing" has literally no metrics behind it and is nothing but naked ideological clap trap not attached to reality. What is failing is our system as less and less can afford it and we are letting people die to directly serve a corporations profit motive. We already spend far more than everyone else and the assertion we can not support this kind of system is not attached to anything but your bias as we could pay for care two times over with what we spend now. If the care was "free" for those coming here you might be right but the fact is that 99% number is pulled right out of your ass. Being bankrupted by the health care system is not as attractive of an idea as you paint it. The countries I cite and would model on universally have very high approval ratings for their health care systems. Your assertion that 99% of them all want to come get care in the states is entirely fact free, forget the fact almost none of them can afford it and that is the chief problem with our system which is only getting more expensive.
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  31. ahmendments come up with a reason his "flawless victories" are always against college audiences and news models.
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  32. ***** But they crated the tea party and own half the GOP. They support everyone so they can own everyone. That you imagine they are democrats as they nearly single handedly created the Tea party marks you as clueless. Their pak spent almost a billion dollars last cycle mostly on GOP races. Get your spin strait as you try to call anyone a moron.
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  33. ***** Ya, but they paid for the clowns who got elected in the house and senate. They spent 400 million in this cycle and decided to spend none of it blocking trump. Trump winning the election is just a bonus as he will rubber stamp everything their minions do. There is no reason to expect Trump who is picking exclusively establishment insiders as advisors is going rogue. You have been bamboozled.
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  34. ***** The GOP was "against Trump" because he was not a party insider and they were afraid the few sensible things he said would lose them their donor money. Now he has won they are all lining up and Trump will tow the party line. He will sign anything they put in front of him and will be a rubber stamp for their corrupt and wholly owned policy. Reince was the head of a that corrupt organization and that trump is choosing the ultimate insider as part of his cabinet does not bode well for the draining of the swamp.
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  35. Catherine Folkman Whitford he whines and sues people that say anything against him. the guy is Mr safe space enforced by a Cadre of lawyers.
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  36. SpeedyRemake They fully point out the nature of the Clinton's even if they as they do not spit your often fact free spin.  The way their opposition is expressed is to show the nature of our leadership as bought and sold to the highest bidder and that tiny group own them all through donations and favors.  It has nothing to do with the nonsense ravings of the right who are just as bought and sold as anyone.  This is why the show also openly calls out Hillary as a problem while acknowledging the most other candidates baring a very few exceptions share the same issues which affect the policy they support. That this is not a 24/7 anti Clinton channel is because they have goals much larger than taking down a single set of plutocrats so they can be replaced with others.  As bad as the Clintons are the other side of the coin has been shown to be as corrupt and far worse on the issues that matter to the people on the show.   No one you support on the right will do any better and polices they support will only make the problem worse.  If you look at Belgium and who committed the crimes it becomes clear your solutions would not have helped there and will not help here.  Your border security trope is nonsense and shows you do not understand the issues or what the real problems are.  You are in a fact free bubble and actual information has no value to you. Islam is no worse than Christianity.  The key difference between them is that secular thought has pulled the teeth of crhistianty in the west and taken away its ability to make law for all.  All fundamentalists are the same brand of cancer and all are dangerous to those who love freedom.  They are most dangerous if they are allowed to impose their will.  How much damage they do is driven not by the quality of their ideology but how much power they are given over others.  The path to making Islam more sane is secularism just like it was for Christianity.  Demonizing moderates and those who do not support violence as the same as terrorists plays into the terrorist hands.  This show does not support Islam just the right of people to make a choice.  If we give the right remove peoples choice from religion it plays into the hands of other fundamentalists who want to remove all choices but theirs.  This show opposes fundamentalists in all forms including Islam, pretending they apologize for their failures is fact free. Thanks, you validate everything I have ever said about people who use a the term "Young Turds" as exactly what I said you were..
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  37. Bernie almost did win.  He started with zero name recognition and the whole party working against him.   He changed the way fund raising is done and almost won despite all the things stacked against him.  The establishment dems are done, it is time to replace them as at this point they have zero credibility.
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  38. The DNC did fail us, they failed us because they copied the gop in a search for donor money not only because it makes them rich but because before this cycle it was a winning if not deceitful strategy.  The democrats have followed the GOP off the cliff on selling out,  establishment democrats rarely support their voters will outside some lip service.  It is time to end the corpatist wing of the party who have just lost so badly no one should ever take their advise again.
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  39. Reds1921 The gop would have too but their candidates were so bad they could not get it in and Russia did not bother leaking their garbage.  That you imagine the dems are worse is empty and poorly thought out.  The Dems became corrupt copying the GOP chasing the same money the republicans have a lock on.  That you ignore that sets you up to be kicked teeth again as there is zero chance the republicans will change anything now they accidently and much to their surprise won.
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  40. Reds1921 You are the moron who does not know the GOP is wholly owned, has been for a long time and does not even pretend otherwise.  Everything that made Hillary bad was attached to her being far too much like a 90's republican and that she chased the exact same money that bought the GOP's senate and house seats this cycle. Being called stupid by the ignorant is not very compelling. 
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  41. ***** I love the fact people like you think capitulating to what ever Russia does is the only way to maintain the peace.  Russian aggression has been held in check for 70 years with the might of the west.  Nothing is changing because even Putin is not stupid enough to risk turning his country into a sheet of glass to annex a few more states.  The America will cause a war spin is clear propaganda put out by the Russian media and it is nonsense on the face to anyone who actually pays attention knows who the aggressors are.
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  42. Ragitsu That is what trump indicated. He said he would not necessarily enforce Nato treaties so that is tacit support. That does not strike me a the way to go. Appeasement of an expansionist dictator did not work out well last time. If putin thinks he can "get away with it" he will do so
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  43. ***** Well it is also a nod that russia can do what they want unopposed by the US. Handing your allies to Russia over some protection money may suit russia's interests but abandoning our allies to empower them is probably not the bet way to go. We do need to scale back military spending but he said he was going to increase that so which is it? Are we going to spend the same or more or cut and run because trump says our allies do not contribute enough?
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  44. luvcheney1 You support actual murder over conceptual theft ... and that is very telling. You arguing it is some kind of freedom to pay double what the rest of the first world does while letting people who can not afford it die marks your tacitly asserted moral superiority as empty nonsense. There is no working system on the planet that you call moral because the only way you get the volume necessary to have a world class affordable health care system is with everyone automatically buying in. Now you can argue that is involuntary but your spin is at the direct cost of 95% of us who would pay less and the 10's of thousands that die because they can not afford care. If you do not want to be "robbed" by paying far less then you should go live somewhere else that has the imaginary system you desire where the argument against theft is not made at the cost of lives. Your vaunted faux moral spin about voluntary services is a tool of stasis that is literally killing people as we speak. You choose an intellectual concept over the very lives of your fellow citizens in defense of greed and waste to enrich a couple handfuls of people. What is actual force is to empower insurance companies to choose who lives or dies based the pursuit of their profit. To put their bottom line above the lives of your fellow Americans. Get this through your head you do not empower freedom with your spin, you argue for our slavery to the powers who enacted actual death panels to avoid paying for care.
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  45. It is what they will do. I will be shocked if they tank it entirely. Their owners would not like it.
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  46. We feel the same way about you clowns.
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  47.  @averydaymond1560  This is very stupid spin as Kavenah IS THE ESTABLISHMENT and any defense of him is sucking off the corrupt failure that is our current crony system. Hillary was cancer but was head and shoulders better than Trump even so. The idea parkmen is estblishment is empty nonsense. Supporting hillary over trump or haveing a nuanced postion on issues does not equal esblishment.
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  48. Mediocrity's Maze I understand. I try to keep the fact the fear we feel as we watch these them act like angry bulls stalking one another is not just a by product and is engendered by design. Drama at this level is not an accident and the same fear that had people expecting to be nuked by the 'commies' or on the other side the 'imperilaists' in the 50's is still being employed as a tool to make us more insular and afriad today.
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  49. Making him into a Trump is a total fail as we know what the face of conservative leadership looks like in Canada.   He did not betray everything he said in Paris and pretending he did ignores what he did do.   The fact is Oil is the life blood of the country and pipelines are inevitable it is a matter of where they go and how they work with those involved including the first nations. They are committing to climate change and are taking heat from the media because they did in the form of the demonization of the carbon tax which is a talking point for big oil sold to the ignorant.   I will take 80% of the pie instead of getting none, thanks Jane. Perhaps it is time for Jane to show the Canadians how to really left leaning non neo liberal support to get the leaders she wants while she openly supported the DNC which is completely corrupt.
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  50. I have no problem with Nato building up on the border with Russia.  They have already shown they are aggressive and I refuse to spit their spin that they have a reason to be afraid they will be attacked.   Nato is a defensive organization and if it is not allowed to set up defenses in the countries that belong what is it meant for?
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