Comments by "sharper68" (@sharper68) on "The Jimmy Dore Show" channel.

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  17. kommisar It is not an act of coercion it is a n act grave indifference to their life, it is not coercive at all and simply you dismiss that person right to live and take it from them. You can can commit murder through your own actions or through an act of inaction to save them why you have the power to. You are guilty of murder of the second type or at best are guilty of being an accessory though inaction. You let them die to save some property and your are far worse than the person who "steals" from you because you step over bodies as you walk through life. The fact is your bullshit spin is hyperbolic emotional bullshit and that is why you use it. It is not "literally stealing" to contributed to the common good. Call it theft if you want to but it is empty bullshit meant to pull at the heart strings of a specific mindset and by the contemporary meaning of the world does not apply. You have options, you can leave and live somewhere else. Health care is oxygen and we will all need it someday. "Not wanting insurance" is a path to certain death or bankruptcy and the ONLY way you avoid one of those fates is to die suddenly. No one sane opts out of health care and that you would deliver it on the basis of how much money is in your wallet ensures children through no fault of their own will die because of your bizarre demand to fly with no health care as freedom. You are arguing to pay double what the rest of the first world pays while letting children die without care and it is empty bullshit. You are killing them through your inaction and in defense of greed and a unwillingness to demand we enrich the vampires in the insurance companies simply so you can opt out. The only ones doing so are those who do can not afford it and your spin is empty sophistry. Of insurance companies choose if you live or die at the point you are ill and need to rely on them paying out. They fight to exclude paying because of "preexisting conditions" or cut you off when you hit your life time cap. They actually had whole departments focused on getting out of their contracts through loop holes to make another buck and were signing the bankruptcy or death warrens of 10 of thousands of american citizens all of whom were paying for insurance. The death panels are the groups who decide to exclude your care for cancer because you had acne when you were child, the murder people to pump up the bottom line and you ignoring that marks you are immoral.
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  20. kommisar It is not a false dichotomy on my part because I am comparing it to what we have today. There is no meaningful or complete proposal even on the table, forget about a working example from your side of the debate. There is no reason to believe in a captive market like health care the insurers will continue to be incentivized to do anything but continue to maximize their profits. The free market is not a magic bullet and does particularly badly in delivering critical services like health care that are needed by both those who have money and those who do not. It is not a commodity whose need is not driven by desire but it is consistently demanded by necessity as a matter of life or death. There has to be some part of you that understands making money is not a good incentive if your service is to provide critical health care and you make more by finding reasons and setting up loop holes in the policy to deny coverage. The choice to pay others health care or not is meaningless if my system is too expensive for a calculated segment of the market to ever join. The system you describe leaves behind the most vulnerable, the very young and the very old to include a profit motive that does nothing but add to the cost of the product while offering no value. The issue of force as you libertarians describe it is meaningless as Americans die or are bankrupted every day for lack of care and I pay double what everyone else who has a public system does. I see no reason and have no examples to point as that makes me believe your imagined/imaginary system would do any better than ours. It is easy spot key areas where it would be worse. Sorry about messing up and pasting my own name in somehow on the last post, it has been corrected. Thanks.
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  21. kommisar Your opposition is empty as you do not have an actual proposal of your own. Until you have an answer that is something other than a pipe dream and more substantial than vapor your can forgive others overlooking you baseless claims. You can not expect to be taken seriously until your proposal is more than a pipe dream, it should at least be embryonic. The profit motive as a corrupting element is a key issue in our system. Unless you have a proposal to mitigate the negative effects then your system is faulty and doomed to fail from the start. The free market which is great for driving down the cost of manufactured goods does not work that way inside captive markets like health care. The insurance companies do not make money by providing care but by not providing it. Their incentive will always be to pay out as little as possible no matter what the cost to the lives of their customers is. When all the companies do the same thing the idea of choice for the consumer evaporates. The argument completion will solve the problem is this case is not based on anything but hopeful fantasy. There is no reason to expect prices will fall and we can expect them to rise to a point a certain percentage of can not afford it then to hold as high as they can keep it. There is no incentive to lower costs. Your system has no means of cost control and as it is not concerned with costs because the insurance companies simply raise the rates as prices increase. Higher prices mean higher rates and more profit. They have no incentive to keep health care costs low and the market will charge what it can bear no less. There are plenty of examples where the free market work well but the idea it is a cure all for every problem is empty poorly thought out nonsense. You make this assertion with basically a religious like credulity and empty assertions of your concepts validity. There is no literally no data to back up your claims. As I explained before it much more expensive here because it is treated like a commodity. Doubling down on a failed strategy expecting better results simply does not make sense. We have them most free market profit driven system in the free world but we also have the most expensive and the only one that does not cover all it's citizens while making health care the single our largest reason for bankruptcy. Your proposal does not reduce costs, we know what does and that you hate the answer does not change it. People go bankrupt and die in our country specifically because of our shitty version of for profit private insurance empowering health care. We already pay massive sums of public money to take care of a segment of our population that insurance companies do not even want to talk to and happily dump onto us. The poor and the old. Insurance companies have socialized the costs of the elderly and poor while scooping up the premiums of the young which if in a public system would mitigate those making the cost of care we already pay for go down. The freedom you fight for is the freedom to be slaves to an insurance company greed which will attempt to deny you care while killing and bankrupting Americans. That would not change under any system you propose and in fact would probably be far worse for most of the old and the poor cut off from aid would not be able to afford coverage at all. You go ahead and fight for your freedom to step over bodies on the streets. I would rather live in a society that cares about its citizens lives and takes that roll seriously. In the end we will win this war of ideas because our policy is based on facts/what works and not just empty rhetoric about force/theoretical pipe dreams.
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