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Which party was asleep before the banking crisis instead of regulating the banks? Which party allowed mass immigration without assessing the impact on jobs and without predicting the numbers accurately? Which party wasted billions on PFI, wars and tax credits? Which party allowed the Tories to get back in?
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First off, what is working class nowadays? I prefer to use the term ordinary working people. Secondly the Tories have actually done more for ordinary workers overall esp those that benefited from buying their council houses. Labour shafted workers by putting immigrants first and shutting down the debate, encouraging a welfare state, not investing in training for workforce and being so reckless that the Tories get drafted in to clear up the mess and use it as an excuse to be the nasty party.
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Labour are the reason for Brexit. They spend too much on reckless projects like PFI, Tax Credits, bank bailouts whilst allowing undercutting of wages, scrapping 10% tax band, creating a housing crisis and allowing mass immigration which has destroyed communities and services and infrastructure. Ask yourself why Labour allowed the Tories n and still cannot win an election eve after throwing the kitchen sink in bribes. Sorry but I've seen the damage Labour caused. I thought the Tories were bad and couldn't wait to oust them after 18 yrs and celebrated in 97 landslide to Blair but wish the Tories had stayed in power now. A lot of public sector was bloated and wasteful and it just goes to show that they can cope with more efficiencies. Benefits system needs a culling and should just be there as a safety net for working people and disabled. Council housing should also be scrapped and made into rent to buy. The NHS is struggling because too many users and PFI debts to service thanks to Labour.
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Might as well be because I dont believe any of it.
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So in effect the remain vote was even less so why do they think they carry so much weight? Unless we give the vote to babies then his argument is null and void.
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Only what we should have done before being taken into the EU.
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We've seen it before in 1997, absolutely awful which led to the Tories getting back in to continue where they left off. Reform only.
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They have one final chance to replace her otherwise they will be destroyed. They think we are stupid.
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Millions of Brits feel unwelcome also, they feel like the Govt has let them down and the corporations have treated them like cattle. These migrants throwing a tantrum just because they think people are picking on them need to get real. People are hacked off that this Govt has allowed millions to come here yet have done nothing about housing, infrastructure, services or funding. Good for the Polish returning, so would I if I could go back home and BUY a house outright from working in an average job in Britain for a few years.Brits can't do that quite as easily.
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Sorry but Labour are a disaster so its Tory all the way even for ex Labour voters like myself.
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Labour are even worse. The trouble is not the politicians it's the people who vote for the worst possible politicians.
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Within 6 months. Reform only otherwise the country goes.
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So far the EU haven't had anything worthwhile to offer us so we are better off leaving fully.
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Hope he gets sacked.
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@NemXX2 All the benefits to go migrants.
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Because its no longer the 1990s and uncontrolled mass immigration doesn't affect Major. It doesnt affect Mogg either but at least he understands concerns.
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Agreed, there should be no long term benefits, it should be limited to up to a few years that you can claim like a buffer between work. Anyone on it longer should have to do community work. I also think anyone coming from abroad claiming housing should be told NO as they have made themselves homeless coming here.
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So what have the EU got to offer us? Anything?
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Its just a protection racket based on manipulation and fear. We need to go it alone and get on with it, I don't se how paying billions every year in membership fees it can be called free trade? Its free for business but its the taxpayer picking up the tab.
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Brits feel unwanted here.
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This is why many voted out of the EU, we could see the way things were going with the race to the bottom, just imagine working all your life and getting nowhere fast like millions have experienced, at least the younger generation have more options and haven't yet wasted their whole lives hoping things will get better. This generation will have no pension or job security either, completely sold down the river and working harder and longer than ever for less. It will only get more competitive once robots take over and we have highly skilled mass immigration or their offspring start competing in the jobs market. I don't know why they are still here when they could go abroad and use their FOM to get a job and get on the housing ladder elsewhere without a lifetime of debt and no life. Don't expect the Labout party to solve any of this either, they made things a lot worse last time they were in power.
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You are misunderstanding the situation. I voted Labour in 1997 and successive elections desperate to rid of the Tories. What I didn't bargain for was just how worse things would become under Blair. Things were nowhere near this bad when the Tories were in before Labours 97 win and that was after years of Thatcher ruling the roost.I read a cross section of tabloids and the Guardian and Indy are nothing to be proud of believe me they talk some crap. I can use my own judgement thankfully.
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Mass immigration under Labour without limitations under Blair 2004 has led to Brexit. This why Labour can no longer be trusted as they will reverse Brexit and allow mass immigration to get completely out of control. Labour party introduced PFI into the health service. Labours mass immigration has led to stagnant wages and undercutting. The Benefits system is not functioning as an effective safety net for working people. There are too many penalties and hurdles and tax contributions aren't being factored, everyone is treated the same regardless of contributions which is unfair. Also tax credits are propping up poor wages which is wrong. Labour created a dependency on tax credits instead of wage rises. No point in building council houses unless immigration is drastically reduced otherwise the same problems prevail. Regulating rentals I agree with, buy to let and help to buy a complete failure. Labour were in Government and happy to relax banking regulation whilst economy was booming and failed to see the problems ahead. Prevention was the best cure. NHS is struggling because there are too many users and PFI debts. No point in throwing money at it unless we have control measures on immigration in place.
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Labour introduced PFI into the health system. Big mistake by Labour imo as its a major reason why the service is struggling. Labour should have encouraged wage rises instead of tax credit dependency during the last boom early 2000s. However a living wage although good on paper is going to put a lot of small companies out of business due to their overheads and economic conditions. Also it would encourage even more immigration and inflation. If the Tories dont address immigration then they will be in the same position as Labour next election. It will have to be controlled with British workers given protection. I expect to be entitled to the top tier benefits package should I need it based on my contributions. I dont think its right that I have been paying in for years and years and treated the same as a lazy workshy or someone that has just come over here and paid very little if anything. Benefits shouldn't be paid to any immigrant for at least 5 years and after significant contributions. Overseas aid should be halved and frozen for a few years until our services are back to normal. Most people in public sector do a good job overall but forget that its not just them that hasn't had a payrise. Their wages rose way above private employees for years and need controlling.
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By introducing tax credits you are effectively saying to every employer for low skilled work and above, pay as little as you like and we will top up the rest. What should have been happening is less intervention as you say and not allowing mass immigration to undercut wages whilst getting people into jobs to meet their skillset instead of devaluing peoples skills. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of employers would not be in business if they had to pay a living wage. The real issue is business rates and rents and EU regulation making them uncompetitive and large corps getting away with tax evasion and gaining commercial advantage whilst abusing zero hrs contracts. Agreed its a working class fight for diminishing share hence the reason why I am opposed to mass immigration of low skilled variety.
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The current lot have policies but don't enact them so whats your point?
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@seeker5738 Couldnt care less, no one black is offended.
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@dmcatherall1 that's how we sum up remoaners. Deluded, liars and us leavers haven't changed our minds at all.
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Election NOW, what is Corbyn scared of, democracy?
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The EU didn't promote diesel did they?
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80 million votes, yeh right.
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Thats if the employer wants you to continue into old age as it gets a lot tougher after 40+. Also, will you have the skills, intellect or aptitude to adapt to a completely different career throughout your lifetime as you would be lucky to be doing the same thing in your career. You can't guarantee your health will get you through to retirement age unfortunately, its something most young people don't even think about. I doubt most of your generation will be able to retire either unless you are very high earners and escape the rat race before robots, A.I and highly skilled mass immigration make things a lot, lot more difficult. Also who is going to pay your rent in retirement? Lets hope you have a inheritance.
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If the guy on the right didn't participate in the referendum then he is entitled to be upset about Brexit. If he did participate then he has no right to lecture anyone on the subject as it was clear as day what a leave win would entail.
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So this lot of traitor remoaners expect our votes in the future? Sorry but the BP are going to be getting them from now on.
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So you aren't laying any blame at the EU promoting diesel and carmakers scamming emissions? If the EU can't protect the planet over profits then there is no hope.
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Thats chicken feed in the scheme of things and for what he is worth to us. He is worth 10x that and nothing is going to stop us voting BP so this stupid smear is pointless, just makes Farage even more popular, best politician in a generation.
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You must be completely thick to believe what he said and you sound racist. Regardless of Brexit the Tories have plans to sell off parts of the NHS. You can also thank the useless Labour party for scr@wing the taxpayer over big time with PFI initiatives into NHS. Your dreadful EU bullies have shot themselves in the foot the way they have been carrying on thanks to Donald Tusk.
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Had the EU and these companies been thinking of the planet instead of scamming the tests and polluting the planet with deadly diesel then they wouldn't be in this position and lives and jobs would have been saved.
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@madinahpaak1 It was Labour opening the borders to the extent that immigration became MASS immigration, they predicted 10-15k per year oming from east europe and here we are with a 1/3 a million every year. Labour policy is mass immigration continuing which will destroy this country in the long term as we cannot sustain the numbers or infrastructure. Also Labour locked the NHS into PFI which meant paying billions more for hospitals and services, they built less housing in 13 years than any ONE year under Thatcher, allowed zero hour contracts, introduced tax credits which has led to part time, non jobs paying minimum wage, also Brown sold off the gold reserves at rock bottom, scrapped the 10% tax band and drove the economy into the wall through deregulation of banking sector and out of control housing market. All of this has made life far more difficult for anyone not wealthy and Brexit was the chance to express dissatisfaction with the system and the way the EU operates. I don't support the Tories as they have created a mess of brexit BUT at least they gave us the referendum, unlike Labour which refused!!!
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Thats coming soon.
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So we need 750,000 to come in each year to get a few hundred doctors or nurses? Ever wondered why you need more staff or am I stating the obvious?
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I don't believe a word of this.
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Brilliant man and a true democrat for giving us the ref. Labour were too pig ignorant to allow one.
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So please don't tell us Labour are the answer to you prayers.
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They didnt promote diesel, it was the EU and carmakers scamming emissions that led to this. Electric should be common place by now, the tech has been around for decades.
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We've already been told what voting out means when we were sent the 9m pamphlet promising that we would be leaving the customs union and SM, no deal is better than a bad deal which everyone agrees with. A 2nd referendum and UK democracy is finished, we don't trust politicians as they will rig the results with 16 yr olds and migrants being allowed to vote. Leave and we can then decide in the future whether its worth returning in the future when the EU has something better to offer.
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They are desperate to get us to believe it isn't worth having an election, instead we must need a losers vote so they can rig it. I say, no thank you. We prefer an election with a clear mandate so that none of the 16-17 year olds can participate or newly arrived migrants given the vote along with the endless project fear and bullying from employers and remoaners into voting remain. Also we don't want a choice of REMAIN vs TERRIBLE DEAL. We aren't stupid, these remoaner politicians have been left behind, we are streets ahead.
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Just like that EU membership fee that keeps increasing but you remoaners knew exactly what you were voting for.
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I remember seeing your posts a year back and none of you remoaners have changed our minds one little bit, we want out more than ever. No pain, no gain as they say.
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Then what happens when those who aren't already immune get it and start spreading it all over again? The only way your method works is closing borders completely. But we need supplies.
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