Comments by "Cole Behnke" (@colebehnke7767) on "TIKhistory" channel.

  1. What are you talking about?
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  2.  @vishalpatkar6819 well what is socialism then, why is it called ‘social’ism?
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  3.  @walterbailey2950  so what is socialism?
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  4. You have any source for your claim that Hitler didn’t have any cohesive economic ideology?
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  5. How so?
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  6. The mains counter argument is that the Nazis were race based socialists, not class based socialists, so their goal was for the abolishment of private property, (witch they did), and all political power was controlled by the working race. No socialist country had ever abolished wage labor.
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  7. ⁠ @fahrenheigh Hitler says his ideology is race based socialism, he even explicitly says that if it weren’t for the racism, Nazism would be indistinguishable from Marxism. What separated Strasser from Hitler was the same divide that other socialists had at the time, should we create an authoritarian government through a violent revolution, or should we create it through a peaceful revolution. Hitler used to be in the violent camp but his attempts failed and he decided to change gears, Strasser was still a part of the violent revolution camp and so would’ve tried to do that even after Hitler took power.
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  8.  @fahrenheigh big corporations where parts of the state under Nazis rulership, you probably should watch the video. Like tell me who controlled the cooperations? What decisions could the so called private owners make with their companies or profits? It was a huge thing amongst socialists after the Soviet Union had its violent revolution, did you want to do the same thing? Or did you want something different? Hitler had to kill of the violent revolutionary, because the violent revolutionary wanted to expand the peaceful revolution into a violent one, which would’ve removed him from power.
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  9.  @fahrenheigh so why couldn’t businessmen set prices, wages, fire or hire, or even control profits? Hell these so called private businessman had production quotas.
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  10. But isn’t that what all socialists are doing? Claiming that they have true socialism and that Hitler did not?
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  11. How so?
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  12. Can you show some of these “idiotic claims”?
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  13. Why are you using a source that TIK has thoroughly discredited?
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  14. Did you watch the latest video?
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  15.  @Chriscraft-ug3sz  well socialism isn’t workers owning the means of production.
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  16. ​ @jonathanguzman3044  And in 1933 the Nazis suspended all those laws, marking all property the states by default.
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  17. So where do fascists state this ideology?
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  18. ​ @samikatto2851  uh, there were a lot of socialists who did believe people were equal. There was a lot of effort into combining darwinism with socialism long before hitler. Hell one of the most popular socialist writers proposed voluntary eugenics as a way to remove sickness from society.
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  19.  @staffangunnarson2421 but how he took over Germany was, relatively.
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  20. Tell my you didn’t watch the video without telling me you didn’t watch the video…
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  21. My boy they were racial socialists, they believed that all German were equal in their race and that the Jews were oppressing them.
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  22. What’s the difference? Who does a collective own something?
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  23.  @error200http can you answer my question? How does a collective own something?
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  24.  @error200http so is the state not the representative of the public?
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  25. ⁠​⁠ @error200http what about representing the interests of the majority (working race)?
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  26.  @error200http so your ideology is one obsessed with power dynamics? You should hate out current leftist elites then.
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  27. How?
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  28. Yeah that source you keep on bringing up really doesn’t address any of the arguments in the video, so I ask again, did you watch the video? Because how are firms independent when they literally are controlled by Nazis? It would be like saying the Catholic Church doesn’t own the country, they just have bishops controlling every business.
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  29. Well what is blatant fascism?
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  30.  @frankmiller721 so what is fascism?
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  31. ​ @frankmiller721  So how is fascism not a form of socialism by those definitions?
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  32.  @frankmiller721 I’m a libertarian, so I don’t lick boots. Now explain to be how they are opposites? Like nothing in the definitions you used preclude fascism from being socialism. Like reread them again and ask me in I’m being dishonest. I dare you.
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  33.  @surgeland9084 uh, you should actually watch the video, where he addresses that, he talks about how the Nazis killed thousands os socialists, while simultaneously admitting hundreds of thousands into their party. Like seriously, you are the one who can’t look at the whole picture.
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  34. Completely voluntary might I add. Much better then our current system.
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  35. What are you talking about?
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  36.  @Petr-Nikolov so you haven’t watched the video?
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  37.  @Petr-Nikolov he’s a libertarian, he hates socialism. So why would a fascist be trying to attach his ideology to something he hates?
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  38.  @jonathand3842 doubt.
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  39.  @hobbso8508  that’s odd, I got into an argument with another socialist about a similar topic and they convinced me that Marxism doesn’t believe democracy could create socialism. Marx actually believed that the revolution would happen because the free market is so bad that it will eventually implode on itself and bring about the revolution.
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  40. Because it’s in the name argument is easily dismissed, so TIK goes through the rest to support his claim.
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  41.  @memeoverlord-pz5ns so when evidence comes out later that disproves it…
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  42. So you didn’t actually watch the video then? Socialism is a broad umbrella term covering marxism, social democracy, social liberalism, fascism, and indeed nazism. To say nazism is socialism is correct, but to say socialism is nazism is not.
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  43.  @psychedelicprimate8974  turns out school oversimplifies topics most of the time.
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  44. You should watch the video. Hard to be private when your owned by the state.
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  45.  @StefanNemec  can you provide sources for the claim that it was financed by the capitalists? how can you tell if an industry is owned by the workers?
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  46. How so?
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  47.  @hobbso8508  I could use that same argument to say Europe wasn’t Christian.
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  48. It’s kind of funny because the antisemitic propaganda was then transform into communist propaganda just by getting rid of the Jewish iconography.
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  49. 1.) and the Soviets where monarchists? 2.) into the hands of the Nazi party, that was the government at the time. 3.) like the Soviets? 4.) like the Soviets? 6.) what do you mean leftist?
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  50.  @alexxx4434 not really, marxism added class conflict to socialism, while fascism was based on socialism directly and added strict nationalism, nazism took marxism and combined it with the second most powerful ideology in Germany at the time, eugenics, witch switched out class conflict for radical conflict.
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