Comments by "Cole Behnke" (@colebehnke7767) on "TIKhistory" channel.

  1.  @Scrubletman632 I mean, during the war, the US copied Soviet propaganda as a way to form a united public front. Then after the war a bunch of the leading historians, whom you can check their political views to see that they had serious Marxist leanings or sympathies, all started “but this wasn’t real socialism”ing. Like it happens over and over, historians constantly are saying, oh, while the Nazis did adopt or do X socialist policy, they were not socialist in any other way. Then another historian says, oh, while the Nazis did adopt or do Y socialist policy, they were not socialist in any other way. Repeat for every socialist policy.
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  2. So after they took power? What would you do if you were a capitalist in a country who just elected a socialist party?
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  3.  Nicholas Time  care to point out something particularly egregious?
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  4. Uh, Trotskyists and communists don’t want independent trade unions…
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  5. So what makes someone an actual qualified historian?
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  6. ⁠ @Mancheguache dam, it’s almost like he has that…
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  7.  @VolrinSeth so what definition of democracy are you using?
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  8. TIK goes into detail on all of these points in his other videos, the bonds thing in particular is talked about heavily in the BankWars series of his.
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  9.  @Elcollpohorrible in the Rickstang Fire decree they suspended private property rights, and without private property rights the government could take anything at any moment. With this the government had ultimate leverage over all business, effectively turning them into subsidiaries. Because if they ever refuse orders from the government, and boy did the government give them orders, their position as the “owner” would be taken from them and be given to someone more loyal. Basically the owners were middle managers in all but name.
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  10. How so?
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  11. Socialists kill other socialists all the time, nothing new.
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  12. How so?
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  13. How so?
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  14. Did you watch the video?
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  15.  @brianrockwood2018 what video in particular?
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  16. Did you actually watch the video?
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  17. Wow its like he already seized power by that point.
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  18.  @nicknolte8671 wow, so it looked like Hitler was about to win, so the capitalists hedged their bets. Like who would you support, the Marxist who says he’s going to take everything from you and is unwilling to negotiate, or the Nazi who says he most definitely won’t not take everything from from you unless you support him if you just pay him of course. Like you should actually watch the videos because you make arguments that are already addressed.
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  19. Care to explain?
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  20. Uh, you do know the history of fascism, right?
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  21. ​ @nickscurvy8635 so you didn't watch the video?
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  22. You need to rewatch the video then.
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  23. What is untrue about it?
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  24.  @nukethepentagon supported private property? How can you say this when he suspended it shortly after coming to power? There where three branches of socialism in Germany at the time, hardline Marxism who believed in a violent revolution to create the workers dictatorship, communists who believed in a peaceful revolution to create a workers dictatorship, and social democracy who wanted peaceful revolution with reforms. Hitler was originally in the hardline Marxist camp, but after his failed revolution he switch to the Communist camp. This is why he purged Strasser’s camp. While both Hitler and Strasser wanted the same thing, Strasser wanted a violent revolution and redistribution of wealth, which would’ve completely ruined Hitler’s successful peaceful revolution.
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  25. ​​ @Schnoz42069  uh you do know according to Wikipedia, "state capitalism" is about nationalizing industries? And privately owned by the state? You do know that the state is the public sector right?
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  26.  @Schnoz42069 but the government is the public sector, and by definition not private.
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  27.  @Schnoz42069 the government is the public sector, it by definition cannot own things privately.
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  28.  @panzermaus664  the Nazis had nothing against profit, that’s a Marxist concept. Just pay your fair share and work in the best interests of the German people. Remember that everything in Nazi Germany was first property of the Nazi party, then second property of the private individual.
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  29. How is he wrong?
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  30. How is he wrong?
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  31. The problem with that is nothing Hitler ever said supports that. In fact Hitlers words support the opposite, that the war and conquest was just the means to the end of socialism.
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  32. Did you actually watch the video?
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  33.  @FaustLimbusCompany  it’s kind of hard for price calculation to happen when the state sets the prices.
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  34.  @alfgarcia965 dam so according to you the Nazis were socialist. Like I have done a lot more research on this than you have. Hitler clearly states multiple times that his socialism is not Marxism, but instead draws its roots from older forms of socialism. Germanic socialism was all ways more nationalistic, hell the danish socialist party is largely responsible for the restrictions on immigration that they have. TIK’s original video on the topic was made to address Nazis, pointing out how their ideology was literally socialism. And then he went off and found several books made by modern neo-Nazis that say they are socialist. Like you could watch the videos, and learn from the enormous amounts of research TIK does on this topic. Or you could ignore them and languish in ignorance.
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  35.  @confusedarmchairphilosopher  so what happenes if you took Marx’s class analysis and replaced it with race analysis?
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  36. Your talking about marxism there. Every form of socialism call all other forms fake reactionary socialism, Nazism is no different.
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  37. How is that relevant?
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  38. Tell me you didn’t watch the video without telling me you didn’t watch the video…
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  39. How so? Care to quote any of the incorrect statements?
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  40.  @hobbso8508  so I can completely disregard your opinion on socialism now. Please don’t embarrass yourself like this again.
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  41.  @hobbso8508  the literal definition is the collective control over the means of production, if you can’t except that then you have a problem.
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  42.  @hobbso8508  Socialism has no requirement of democracy, in fact they can’t be democratic because then people could vote to be not socialist.
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  43.  @hobbso8508  additionally democratic socialism would be authoritarian, if the majority didn’t like a minority they could have them killed off.
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  44.  @dallowfusionblast  your make some points about the death numbers, but you disregard everything else TIK has said.
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  45.  @lambnathan97  what in the world are you on about? You claim that the video is poorly researched, and you back up that claim it’s anecdotal evidence. Please try again.
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  46. What is he getting wrong then?
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  47. ⁠ @ajax2181 corporatism was largely a socialist ideology. Utilism is a legal system, and would just be socialism if it was applied to economics. Proprietism is just the next generation of capitalism. Like I said half of what you told me was more detailed socialism.
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  48. You should probably watch the video.
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  49. How so?
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  50. What are you talking about?
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