Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder" channel.

  1.  @robertmiller2720  : "Please stop with this BS; it's tiresome" There is no BS coming from me. Go read some history before commenting.
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  2.  @jessetreadway5249  : Keep snorting that copium i guess.
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  3.  @ryandonahue2489  "Well, pal, that's what passes for a current definition of fascism. It is the wikipedia description of it. " Fascism refers to Mussolini's ideology. Always has, still does. That is the only definition it has, sourced from an Italian word no less. Now parties which are tying to mimic said ideology, are called Neo-Fascist movements. I guess this is not the only thing Wiki manages to get wrong, but then again, Wiki has never been a credible source for anything.
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  4.  @ryandonahue2489  "So you say you're right because your definition is different. " There is no "my definition" though. I'm using the only definition that there is, based on historical facts and reality. It is not my concern, that people are ignorant about it and use the word wrong. But then again, luckily they have me to educate them about these things.
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  5.  @TheAmericanAmerican  : The point was, that your OP makes no sense, since there is no correlation between capit alism and demo cracy.
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  6.  @TheAmericanAmerican  "Read my OP again and remember the fact that we live on a planet that is dom nated by capita lism, NOT democ racy." We live on a planed that is dom inated by various Govern ments who interfere with the mar kets; some more, some less. We don't even have proper capi talism i.e. Lais sez-fa ire.
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  7.  @TheAmericanAmerican  "You think govern ments are ABO VE the capit alists! " Depends where you live. Would prefer to not have governm ents at all.
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  8.  @TheAmericanAmerican  "Reagan deregulated the government 4 decades ago, leading to the capitalists shipping jobs overseas so they could cut costs on labor" I'm not American, but I can certainly say that it's the complete opposite. Shipping jobs overseas happens when the government is getting too much involved and making it more difficult for businesses to do their thing. Has also happened here in Scandinavia and will keep happening until people realize that we need a smaller government, not bigger.
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  9. @Bwanika John : They do.
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  10. There is no Fascism in America whatsoever.
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  11. Wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with Right wing of any kind whatsoever, nor with Spain nor Germany. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  12. Trump has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Get some help for your TDS.
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  13. @American Authoritarianism Rising : There is no reason why American right-wingers would want to support state socialism, hun.
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  14. There are no Fascist countries anywhere. You people have no clue what the word "Fascism" means.
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  15. There is no Far-Right in France though.
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  16.  @eveningchaos1  "Capitalism seems to be in decay, that's for sure." What Capitalism? Almost every country has a Mixed economy system, not Capitalism.
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  17.  @ben5154  : No, just no. Eco knows nothing about f as cis m and his useless points are too vague. You do know that the fa sc is t wrote a manifesto and a book that tells very specifically what their ideology is about, right?
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  18. "Emphasize what it says about inequality. Right wing ideology is based on natural social hierarchy which is all about natural inequality. Try to make the right winger to admit that they want to increase inequality." Right wing is about equality of opportunities, as people on the Right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount (individualism) and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized. Inequality is only a glorified word for Authoritarianism and curb stomping freedoms and liberties.
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  19. "No helping the weak. " There is a difference between people voluntarily helping the weak and government forcing people to help at the point of a gun.
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  20. " No wealth distribution that takes away wealth from the rich.." Because that is called stealing, and it is morally wrong.
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  21. "And at the end of that road is always social darwinism and eugenics. " Those are Left wing traits as eugenics specifically is tied to Collectivism and is the only way to achieve "perfect equality" as it allows people to bypass the "natural inequality" inherent in nature (biological deficiencies).
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  22.  @squidcaps4308  " For you that kind of "stealing" is more wrong than letting people die from hunger ... And in your head letting people die from hunger and cold is ok?" I highly doubt people would just randomly let people die from hunger as even now we have religious organizations and non-profits helping people in general. Also are you suggesting that you would let them die? If not, then why do you assume that everyone else would? or is this the classic "I don't want people to die from hunger and cold but don't you dare to touch my food or come to my house"?
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  23.  @squidcaps4308  "You value wealth over humans." Nope. I value freedom, voluntarism and right to property over stealing.
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  24.  @squidcaps4308  "that we all have decent housing" Housing wouldn't be a problem if the government wouldn't put so many restrictions on it for example.
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  25.  @squidcaps4308  "good quality food," Farming is a job for many. If you don't know how to grow food for yourself then naturally you have to outsource your lack of self-sufficiency to someone else, who will grow the food for you... just don't assume that work to be free.
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  26.  @squidcaps4308  "good quality healthcare, " Can only be achieved in the private sector.
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  27.  @squidcaps4308  "free education " Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the wages of those teachers and in order to have some quality education, it is also only achievable within the private sector.
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  28. Interestingly enough, Martin never used the word 'soci alist" in this poem. The first paragraph doesn't exist.
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  29.  @edcarlson6229  "I read your comment and looked up the original poem (for lack of a better word) and it indeed starts with the line about socialists." Actually it starts with the Communists, and doesn't mention socialists at all. According to wiki: "Niemöller is quoted as having used many versions of the text during his career, but evidence identified by professor Harold Marcuse at the University of California Santa Barbara indicates that the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum version is inaccurate because Niemöller frequently used the word "communists" and not "socialists."[1] The substitution of "socialists" for "communists" is an effect of anti-communism, and most common in the version that has proliferated in the United States. According to Marcuse, "Niemöller's original argument was premised on naming groups he and his audience would instinctively not care about. The omission of Communists in Washington, and of Jews in Germany, distorts that meaning and should be corrected."[1]
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  30. Wrong. National Socialists had nothing to do with Right wing of any kind whatsoever. They were Far-Left socialists who thought that Marxism was doing socialism incorrectly.
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  31. Griffins definition is nothing more than vague jargon. The supposed "mythic core" of Fascism was specifically the rebirth of the Roman Empire, where the State apparatus was Caesar.
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  32.  @wodidos  That is literally what the Fascists themselves said about it. From their "Philosophy of Fascism" by Mario Palmieri, 1936; "The historical continuity of political forms, social organization, religious expression and spiritual aspirations, in the life of the Italian people, which had lasted two thousand years and had been broken only in the last few centuries of servitude to foreigners and their foreign ways of living, has been at last restored by Fascism, which is the direct heir of Roman traditions and of Roman ideals. Fascism means, in fact, the return to Order, to Authority, to Law; the return to the Roman conception of human Society, conception which those centuries of oblivion could obscure but never efface. Fascism is, in other words, intimately connected to Roman; its mission is the continuation of the mission of Rome; its heritage is the legacy of Rome. There are some things Rome symbolized in the golden age of its glory which were and still are of supreme significance to mankind; things of the spirit of an eternal and absolute value which Fascism wants restored to their rightful supremacy."
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  33.  @wodidos  "I agree that it is questionable if we can come to a generic definition of fascism, but when it comes to generic definitions, his makes the most sense to me among the ones I’ve come across." If you are looking for a generic definition, then here it is: Totalitarian National Syndicalism (inspired by Georges Sorel), based on a philosophy of "Actual Idealism" (inspired by Hegel), trying to restore some traditions and ways of the Roman Empire.
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  34.  @wodidos  "are we looking for a generic definition of historic italian fascism?" There is no generic definition. Fascism = Mussolini's ideology.
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  35.  @wodidos  "Or do we think that the concept can be applied to other regimes/movements in a generic way?" It was very specific and only practiced by the Italians. It could be applied if there would be such a movement, but there hasn't been. Instead we have had different ideologies which have mimicked the Italian Fascists to some degree, and those ideologies are labeled as Neo-Fascist.
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  36. Well, people on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized. Libertarianism / Minarchism and all the ideologies based on Classical Liberalism are on the far-right side.
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  37. @JM: It can only be on the left.
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  38. Except Fascism wasn't anti-socialism nor did they reject economic principles based on socialist frameworks. They specifically embraced them. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  39. You have no clue what Fascism means nor what it represented.
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  40. "There are different flavors of Fasc ism." No. There is just one flavor of Fasc ism, and that is the Mussolini's version.
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  41. " you have two very different types of fas cists. " No. Hitler wasn't a fasc ist and nazi sm wasn't fascis m. It was National Social ism.
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  42. " and Social Nationalists are not Soci alists." Wrong. They were socia lists by definition.
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  43.  @dribrom  "That is a very common misconception." Wrong. It is not. This is basic W W2 history.
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  44.  @dribrom  "But if you read Mein Kampf there is no drought that Hi tler was a Fas cist. " Wrong. Hit ler literally criticizes Mussolini's fasc ism in his Mein Kampf. Both Hitler and Mussolini made it very clear, that Naz ism is National Soc ialism and Fasc ism is Fascis m. They were two completely separate ideologies. Goebbels was even more vocal about it. "One might say that Fas cism has reacted upon the creative life of the Italian people somewhat like sterili zation. It is, after all, nothing like National Soc ialism. While the latter goes down to the roots, Fasc ism is only a superficial thing. That is regrettable, but one must recognize it clearly. National Soci alism is really a way of life." — Dr. Joseph Goebbels, The Goebbels Diaries
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  45.  @dribrom  "His explanation in that book of what national soci alism was explains how he wanted to rebrand socialism to mean fasc ism." Wrong. Hit ler has never called his ideology as fasc ism nor himself as a fas cist. He made it very clear why their ideology was called National Soci alism. "At the founding of this Movement we formed the decision that we would give expression to this idea of ours of the identity of the two conceptions: despite all warnings, on the basis of what we had come to believe, on the basis of the sincerity of our will, we christened it "National Soc ialist.' We said to ourselves that to be 'national' means above everything to act with a boundless and all-embracing love for the people and, if necessary, even to die for it. And similarly to be 'social' means so to build up the state and the community of the people that every individual acts in the interest of the community of the people and must be to such an extent convinced of the goodness, of the honorable straightforwardness of this community of the people as to be ready to die for it.“ — Adolf Hi tler , Munich - Speech of April 12, 1922
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  46.  @dribrom  "That is pure fasc ism." No. That is soc ialism and totalitarianism. While fasc ism also had those two, it was a completely separate ideology.
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  47.  @dribrom  "Even if he doesn't use the word fas cism himself in the book he list all the criteria for being a fas cist." No. Again, Hit ler and Nazi sm had nothing to do with fas cism whatsoever. Fasc ism was Mussolini's ideology, practiced in Italy. Two completely different things.
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  48.  @dribrom  "To describe what fasc ism is in the most simple way is when the government or a political party demand that everyone has to be extremely nationalistic or they will be punched." That is what totalitarianism is, which is not unique to fasc ism. Fa scism was also based on synd icalism, statism and Hegelian philosophy. Fasc ism rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and mar xism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
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  49.  @dribrom  "So when Hitl er calls Ma rxism for Je wery (meaning: behaving like a Je w. A slur the N AZI used.) and a nightmare the Jew ish people has cursed the German nation with, he doesn't reject Marxi sm? " When it comes to Na zism and Hitl er, they opposed both capitalism and bolsh evism/commu nism/ma rxism because they supposedly were "Jew ish ploys" to take over Germany. Which is why Nazi sm (and Fasc ism) are classified as "3rd position" movements. Hi tler however had an interesting relationship with marx ism, after all, he was a ma rxist back in the 1919 for a brief time. "I have learned a great deal from Marxi sm as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socia lism is based on it… National Soci alism is what Marx ism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.“ — Adolf Hi tler , Hit ler Speaks (1940), p. 186
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  50.  @dribrom  "Hit ler fits right into your definition of fa scism." No. Hitl er had his own ideology, National Soci alism. He doesn't fit into fas cism since he isn't a syndicalist nor does he follow Hegelian philosophy. Also race was more important to Hitler than the nation, while it was the other way around in fas cism.
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