Comments by "John Zuma" (@johnzuma4688) on "Chris At Speakers Corner" channel.

  1. Let any Muslim complain about Hatiuns voice again in future.
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  2. I have read the hafs quran and some of the hadiths and found the following very disturbing about Mohammed and his allah: - Islam teaches that child marriage is OK which implies child rape (Surah 65:4) which is evil. And Mohammed of course led by example when he raped a 9 year old little girl. - Islam teaches that it is OK for a husband to beat his wife (Surah 4:34) which is evil. - Islam teaches that it is OK to use women captured in war to be used and sold as sex slaves (Surah 33:50) which evil. - Islam teaches that Christians and Jews must be fought until they have been killed (murdered) unless they submit to Islam and agree to be oppressed second class citizens in the own country (Surah 9:29) which is evil. - And the witness of a women is worth only half of that of a man. (Surah 2:282). That is an insult to all women. So that is my problem with the many different Arabic qurans we can all buy. And we should always remember all of Islam is only what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived. Lets see what Jesus said: - Jesus teaches in John 14:6 English Standard Version » 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. « So who needs Mohammed and his allah? Logically no-one, especially as Mohammed does not explain how anyone gets to heaven following what he recited or how he lived.
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  3.  @ferozmohamed5  We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place of pagan idol worship where some 360 idol gods were being worshipped there at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac would never have condoned bowing down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? We see that Mohammed bowed down in worship to the Kaaba when it had 360 pagan idol gods being worshipped there. We know Mohammed did his pilgrimage to the Kaaba when all these idol gods were being worshipped there. We know that Mohammed kissed the black stone just like the pagan idol worshippers did. We know that Mohammed walked around the Kaaba just like the pagan idol worshippers did. If Mohammed was not worshipping the idols in the Kaaba, he would have torn down the Kaaba and built a new mosque somewhere else in Mecca. As he did not do that we know that his allah was one of the idol gods in the Kaaba. As the saying goes, if quacks like a duck and it waddles like a duck it must be a duck. Mohammed worshipped just like the pagan idol worshippers did and that makes him an idol worshippers. And of course one is still a monotheist if one worships only one pagan idol. But that does not change the fact that Mohammed bowed down in worship to pagan idols which makes him an idolater.
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  4.  @ferozmohamed5  I have read the hafs quran and some of the hadiths and found the following very disturbing about Mohammed and his allah: - Islam teaches that child marriage is OK which implies child rape (Surah 65:4) which is evil. And Mohammed of course led by example when he raped a 9 year old little girl. - Islam teaches that it is OK for a husband to beat his wife (Surah 4:34) which is evil. - Islam teaches that it is OK to use women captured in war to be used and sold as sex slaves (Surah 33:50) which evil. - Islam teaches that Christians and Jews must be fought until they have been killed (murdered) unless they submit to Islam and agree to be oppressed second class citizens in the own country (Surah 9:29) which is evil. - And the witness of a women is worth only half of that of a man. (Surah 2:282). That is an insult to all women. So that is my problem with the many different Arabic qurans we can all buy. And we should always remember all of Islam is only what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived. Lets see what Jesus said: - Jesus teaches in John 14:6 English Standard Version » 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. « So who needs Mohammed and his allah? Logically no-one, especially as Mohammed does not explain how anyone gets to heaven following what he recited or how he lived.
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  5.  @ferozmohamed5  We read in the hadiths that some 20 years after Mohammed had died, different groups of Muslims recited the quran so differently that fights broke out between these groups as to who was reciting Mohammed's quran correctly. So Uthman rewrote the quran and made it one quran written in one dialect. Uthman then burnt all the originals. Today we know of some 40 different Arabic qurans, all written by unknown people after the time of Uthman. So the evidence is quite clear, the quran invented by Mohammed was burnt by Uthman, so nobody today knows what Mohammed actually said and the many different Arabic qurans we can buy clearly prove that all these qurans were corrupted. And all of Uthmans qurans have been lost as well, so no-one can check what Uthman wrote. And we have Islamic sources that tell us that more than 100 verses of Surah 33 have been lost. And some sources tell us that the quran should have 111 surahs and other tell us that the quran should have 116 surahs. So did Muslims add surahs or did they delete them? So did Mohammed lie about his allah guarding the quran or was Mohammed's allah not capable of doing this? So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven?
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  6.  @donthomson10  So you cannot defend Mohammed and that is why you are trying to change the subject?
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  7.  @ferozmohamed5  My friend, your ignorance of the Bible is really astounding. It is the Gospel of Jesus the Messiah according to John. Logically John wrote that and as we read He was an eye-witness to the life of Jesus. So where is the quran according to Mohammed? You know the one that actually confirms the Torah and the Gospel (Surah 3:3) and not contradict the Gospel as the all the modern qurans do? As Mohammed was illiterate, we know he did not write the quran. We read in the hadiths that some 20 years after Mohammed had died, different groups of Muslims recited the quran so differently that fights broke out between these groups as to who was reciting Mohammed's quran correctly. That shows that the memorization of the quran had failed completely just 20 years after Mohammed had died. So Uthman rewrote the quran and made it one quran written in one dialect. Uthman then burnt all the originalswhich means nobody today has the quran according to Mohammed. Today we know of some 40 different Arabic qurans, all written by unknown people after the time of Uthman. So the evidence is quite clear, the quran invented by Mohammed was burnt by Uthman, so nobody today knows what Mohammed actually said and the many different Arabic qurans we can buy clearly prove that all these qurans were corrupted. And all of Uthmans qurans have been lost as well, so no-one can check what Uthman wrote. And we have Islamic sources that tell us that more than 100 verses of Surah 33 have been lost. And some sources tell us that the quran should have 111 surahs and other tell us that the quran should have 116 surahs. So did Muslims add surahs or did they delete them? So did Mohammed lie about his allah guarding the quran or was Mohammed's allah not capable of doing this?
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  8.  @ferozmohamed5  Please do tell me, when did Mohammed order to destroy the Kaaba? Obviously Mohammed did not. So tell me, why did Mohammed bow down in worship to the Kaaba just like the pagan idol worshipers did? And that at a time when the Kaaba was full of pagan idol gods. And why did Mohammed do the pilgrimage to the Kaaba just like the pagan idol god worshipers did at a time when the Kaaba was full of pagan idol gods? Why did Mohammed kiss the black stone like the pagan idol god worshipers did? And why did Mohammed walk around the Kaaba like the pagan idol god worshipers did? And why did Mohammed follow the prayer ritual of the pagan idol god worshipers? Clearly Mohammed followed the practices of the pagan idol god worshipers which in effect makes him an idol god worshipers irrespective if he destroyed the idols or not. And of course, with the exception of the Satanic verses, Mohammed always claimed to follow only one allah. So who was this allah who was happy to be worshiped as "the god" amongst 360 pagan idol gods? But let us move on to your your point about the preservation of the quran. We read in the hadiths that some 20 years after Mohammed had died, different groups of Muslims recited the quran so differently that fights broke out between these groups as to who was reciting Mohammed's quran correctly. That shows that the memorization of the quran had failed completely just 20 years after Mohammed had died. So your claim about the quran being preserved by memorization is false according to the Islamic sources. So Uthman rewrote the quran and made it one quran written in one dialect. Uthman then burnt all the originals which means nobody today has the quran according to Mohammed. Today we know of some 40 different Arabic qurans, all written by unknown people after the time of Uthman. So the evidence is quite clear, the quran invented by Mohammed was burnt by Uthman, so nobody today knows what Mohammed actually said and the many different Arabic qurans we can buy clearly prove that all these qurans were corrupted. And all of Uthmans qurans have been lost as well, so no-one can check what Uthman wrote. And we have Islamic sources that tell us that more than 100 verses of Surah 33 have been lost. And some sources tell us that the quran should have 111 surahs and other tell us that the quran should have 116 surahs. So did Muslims add surahs or did they delete them? So did Mohammed lie about his allah guarding the quran or was Mohammed's allah not capable of doing this? So your second point is proven fslse as well by the islamic sources. And not one of the sources claims that Non-Muslims had anything to do with it. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven.
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  9.  @donthomson10  >> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). << Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64. Here we read in a most authentic islamic source that Mohammed had sex with a 9 year old child. That makes Mohammed an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. You really want to defend such an evil person?
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  10.  @donthomson10  Thanks for admitting that you cannot defend such an evil and disgusting man. But it does show that you are more decent person than Mohammed was.
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  11.  @donthomson10  I apologize for not expressing myself clearly enough. The issue is not Aisha (or your grandmother), the issue is Mohammed as he claimed to be a prophet for all of man-kind. I assume your grand-father did not make such a claim, so your grandparents marriage is totally irrelevant to the argument. The issue is that Mohammed married a 6 year old child and not a 13 year old teenager. And Mohammed then had sex with that child when it was only 9 years old. Sex with a child is by definition rape and that my friend makes Mohammed an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. And of course your grandmothers age of marriage does not change the fact that Mohammed was an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. I see you did not even try to defend this evil done by Mohammed. Again that makes you a better person than Mohammed. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed (the only prophet of Islam) will get you to heaven?
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  12.  @donthomson10  How can I insult your grandmother when I do not even know her.
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  13. I have read the hafs quran and some of the hadiths and found the following very disturbing about Mohammed and his allah: - Islam teaches that child marriage is OK which implies child rape (Surah 65:4) which is evil. And Mohammed of course led by example when he raped a 9 year old little girl. - Islam teaches that it is OK for a husband to beat his wife (Surah 4:34) which is evil. - Islam teaches that it is OK to use women captured in war to be used and sold as sex slaves (Surah 33:50) which evil. - Islam teaches that Christians and Jews must be fought until they have been killed (murdered) unless they submit to Islam and agree to be oppressed second class citizens in the own country (Surah 9:29) which is evil. - Verily those who believe not [in Islam], among those who have received the scriptures [Jews and Christians], and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures. << Quran 98:6, So according to Mohammed Christians and Jews who reject Islam are the worst of creature. - And the witness of a women is worth only half of that of a man. (Surah 2:282). That is an insult to all women. - Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …" - Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)." - Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush … So that is my problem with the many different Arabic quran we can all buy. And we should always remember all of Islam is only what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived. Lets see what Jesus said: - Jesus teaches in John 14:6 English Standard Version » 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. « So who needs Mohammed and his allah? Logically no-one, especially as Mohammed does not explain how anyone gets to heaven following what he recited or how he lived.
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  14.  @SM-rf4vr  You make the claim you have to prove it.
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  15.  @SM-rf4vr  >> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). « Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64. Here we read in a most authentic islamic source that Mohammed married a 6 year old little child and had sex with that child when it was just 9 years old. Sex with children is rape which makes Mohammed an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. So was Bukhari not a Muslim?
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  16.  @SM-rf4vr  >> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). « Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64. Here we read in a most authentic islamic source that Mohammed married a 6 year old little child and had sex with that child when it was just 9 years old. Sex with children is rape which makes Mohammed an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. Mohammed was the contributor to islam so Muslims follow an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert.
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  17.  @Servant-Of-Al-Qudus  We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba because Mohammed’s allah commanded Mohammed to do so. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place where pagans worshipped some 360 idol gods at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jakob would never have commanded or even condoned that one of His prophets would bow down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jakob. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? All we know for certain is, that Mohammed’s allah is not our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible.
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  18.  @donthomson10  Why do you not start by telling us why you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven? And do remember all of Islam is only based on what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
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  19.  @fareenhanif4535  There is no evidence that Abraham was even near Mecca and definitely there is nothing to believe the fairy tale that Abraham actually built the Kaaba. And of course nowhere do we read that our Almighty God of the Bible told Abraham to build anything at all. So my friend you have been lied to. All the protestant churches have no statue of Jesus or Mary. And they are no idols as nobody considers them to be gods. And of course what does the way people built churches have to do with Mohammed bowing down in worship to the Kaaba when the Kaaba had 360 pagan idol gods in it? Or the fact that Mohammed kissed the black stone like the pagan idol god worshipers did? Or the fact that Mohammed bowed down in worship like the pagan idol god worshipers did? Or that Mohammed did the pilgrimage to the Kaaba when the Kaaba was full of pagan idol gods and he them walked around the Kaaba like the pagan idol gods worshipers did. All these actions make Mohammed an idol god worshipers and just because Mohammed believed in only one pagan idol god does not change the fact that Mohammed was an idolater. You say >> The God of the Quran doesn’t order the killing of babies but the god of the bible does, << So you clearly acknowledge two gods, namely the god of the quran and our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible. We read in Surah 3:3 that our Almighty God of the Bible revealed the Torah and the Gospel which are the two major parts of the Bible. So even Mohammed acknowledged the God of the Bible as the ONE TRUE GOD. So who is Mohammed's allah? Without Mohammed nobody would even know that this allah even existed. So clearly when you say the shahada you acknowledge that Mohammed is a partner of his allah. And as nobody know who Mohammed's allah is, how do you know he is eternal? And as you said Mohammed's allah is not our Almighty God of the Bible. And as we both know, there is only ONE GOD. So who is this allah that commanded Mohammed to change the direction of worship to the Kaaba when the Kaaba was a place where pagan idol gods were being worshiped? Or put in a different way, who is Mohammed's allah who was happy to be worshiped as "the god" amongst 360 pagan idol gods. All we know for certain is that Mohammed's allah is not our Almighty God of the Bible. So please let me know who wrote the more than 30 different Arabic qurans we can all buy today. It certainly was not Mohammed. In fact please show where the quran is that you believe came from Mohammed, as we read in Surah 3:3 that the quran revealed to Mohammed confirmed the Bible, yet the hafs quran I read, contradicts the Bible. So who wrote all the different qurans we can buy and where is Mohammed's quran?
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  20.  @thedungeon9992  So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all of islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to be with GOD in heaven on judgement day my friend? And remember on judgement day there will be ONLY heaven where GOD is or the other place, so where does that leave you my friend?
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  21.  @Quackzine  Very true.
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  22.  @Error76808  Well my friend, you have been lied to. You see, I have two very different Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. So I hold the evidence that there are different Arabic versons that differ in meaning. But please do not believe me. Go and buy a hafs quran and a warsh quran in Arabic and compare them. YOu do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between just these two versions of the quran. So will you take up my challenge or will you keep on believing the islamic fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved quran?
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  23. So the interent is more "god" than Mohammed's "the god"??
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  24.  @jacobalexander4167  I can well believe that, as the internet exposes the lies Mohammed's "the god" tells people.
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  25. So you admit that the quran is false and Mohammed's allah got it wrong when he said that Jesus is a prophet of God? That makes Mohammed a false prophet my friend. So tell me, where in the quran you use does it say "if you follow Mohammed you will get to heaven"? Of course if the quran you use does not state that, then on judgement day you will go to the other place and not heaven.
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  26. As the hafs Quran and warsh Quran are the most used Qurans they are the ones usually compared. You will find that number of verses in Hafs is 6236, while Warsh has only 6214 verses. In Surah Al imran 3:146 in the hafs Quran it states “And many a prophet fought” and in the warsh Quran it states “And many a prophet was killed”. In verse 2:184, the Hafs Quran reads the verse to be "... a ransom [as substitute] of feeding a poor person...". On the other hand, the Warsh Quran reads it "... a ransom [as substitute] of feeding poor people..." Logically prophets being killed is not the same meaning as prophets fighting and feeding one is different in meaning from feeding many. Clearly we have two different versions of the quran here which proves that the qurans (plural) have not been perfectly preserved. Differences between hafs and warsh Quran. https://www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf
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  27.  @Durray13  I have TWO different Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. So I hold the evidence that there are more than one version of the quran. You have been lied to my friend. But please my friend, do NOT believe me. Go and buy a hafs quran and a warsh quran (they are the most popular) in ARABIC and compare them. You do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between just these two versions of the quran. So will you accept my challenge and buy these two qurans or will you keep on believing the islamic fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved quran my friend?
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  28.  @SunMoon477  The Arabic word "allah" only means "the god" and is a common noun and not a name.
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  29.  @sunnyrainyday6820  I have TWO different Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. So I hold the evidence that there are more than one version of the quran. You have been lied to my friend. But please my friend, do NOT believe me. Go and buy a hafs quran and a warsh quran (they are the most popular) in ARABIC and compare them. You do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between just these two versions of the quran. So will you accept my challenge and buy these two qurans or will you keep on believing the islamic fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved quran my friend?
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  30.  @sunnyrainyday6820  My friend, you say >> I already explained to you why these 2 reading of the Quran exists. << All you did was to explain the fairy tale you believe in and nothing else. Uthman burnt all the different versions of the quran invented by Mohammed and replaced them all with ONE quran written in only ONE dialect. So invented the different qurans that differ in MEANING my friend? By the way, there is no evidence that any angel ever spoke to Mohammed. So at best you only have Mohammed’s word for it. So there is no evidence that any of the different versions of the quran invented by Mohammed came from Mohammed’s “the god” (that is all that allah means). And as the different versions all differ in MEANING, clearly we are not talking about the same quran. In fact we are not even talking about Uthmans one corrupted quran but about a whole lot of different corrupted qurans. You say >> In order to refute the claim “The Quran is not perfectly preserved” you have to explain how you know more about Allah ﷻ ‘s book than Allah ﷻ himself. << Actually, all I have to show that I have two qurans that differ in MEANING in just one verse. And the hafs and the warsh quran I have differ in MEANING in a number of verses. So logically and factually I hold the evidence that the quran has not been preserved. The central tenets of Mohammed’s “the god” in the quran are not the issue here my friend. You say >> For example if you can find God praying it would prove he’s not God, << We read that Mohammed’s “the god” prayer FOR Mohammed. So who did “the god” pray TO when he prayed FOR Mohammed? And Mohammed’s “the god” did not even know that the sun did not set in a muddy pool, so clearly he is not GOD. Mohammed’s “the god” does not know that salt and fresh water mix as soon as they come together and that there is no barrier between them, so clearly he is not GOD. And Mohammed’s “the god” did not even know that there is no Uzair in Jewish theology, so clearly he is not GOD. All all these points disqualify Mohammed’s “the god” as being GOD. And within the Trinity, the points you mentioned are not an issue at all. Jesus who is the Word of GOD which makes HIM GOD spoke to GOD the FATHER when HE prayed. The human body of Jesus died on the cross but not the divine, so again no problem. GOD the FATHER was there all the time and is there even today, so again no problem. So all you have shown is that you have no clue what Christians believe and only follow some islamic fairy tales when it comes to Jesus. Remember Jesus said that He and the Father are ONE GOD. So are you calling Jesus a liar my friend? So tell me, why do you even believe that you will be with GOD in heaven on judgement day when you follow Mohammed? And do show the quran verses on which you base your belief. Remember our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible promises every person that if they accept Jesus as their saviour and follow what Jesus commanded until they die, they will be with GOD in heaven. As Mohammed claimed to be the final prophet, surely he promised the same for people who follow Mohammed? If not where does it leave you my friend?
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  31.  @brucemeyer4133  Thank you for referring to the Bible. You obviously have copied and pasted from somewhere. You then make make the statement "your Bible is corrupted". Well my friend you seem confused. You do not show where the differences have an effect on the theology that is taught in the Bible. Then of course it is not "my" Bible and as even Bart Ehrman agrees that all these differences have no effect on the theology that is taught. You say I worship a statue?? No idea on what you base that opinion. And what makes you think that Christians do not follow what Jesus commanded? Or is this another one of your meaningless opinions? I agree you are a hypocrite or why do you take one verse out of context? Read John 17:1-5 and see how Jesus says that he is God. Now what is really the issue here is that the content of the Bible does not change the fact that Mohammed bowed down in worship to the Kaaba when the Kaaba was a place where pagan idol gods were being worshiped. And of course we know from the Bible that our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible would never command one of His prophets to bow down to a place where pagan idol gods are being worshiped. That tells us that Mohammed was not a prophet of our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible. And of course it raises the question who is Mohammed allah who was happy to be worshiped as "the god" amongst 360 pagan idol gods? And the Bible has nothing to do with Mohammed kissing the black stone like the pagan idol god worshipers did. Or Mohammed doing the pilgrimage to the Kaaba when the Kaaba was full of pagan idols the same as the pagan idol god worshipers did. Or the walking around the Kaaba the way the pagan idol gods worshipers did. So Mohammed behaved just like the pagan idol god worshipers from the way he prayed, to the direction of prayer, kissing the black stone, doing the pilgrimage to the Kaaba and walking around the Kaaba just like the pagan idol god worshipers did. And this is supposed to be a prophet of our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible?? Now who would ever believe that fairy tale? So I take it, you only mentioned the Bible to change the subject away from the idol worship Mohammed did. And of course we can all buy more than 30 different Arabic qurans and they are all full of mistakes and contradictions and of course they all teach lots of evil. I always find it interesting that Muslims seem to believe that if they show some fault in other religions it somehow makes islam true. Logic of course shows that islam does not miraculously become true if someone finds something they assume is false in some other religion. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven? And if you do not know that following Mohammed will get you to heaven why do you even follow Mohammed?
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  32.  @brucemeyer4133  Matthew 5:32 >> 32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. << That makes Mohammed an adulterer which means he was never a prophet of God.
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  33.  @brucemeyer4133  1 Samuel Vers 15 >> "Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." << So much for the islamic belief that God is so merciful that he will forgive every sin. Just think what awaits you on judgement day.
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  34.  @farid-selefi  Agreed, problem is that people like Shamsi do their best to keep people ignorant of what Islam teaches. And these fools do not bother to check what Islam really teaches. But do tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven
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  35. Pact of Umar - what Muslims demand that Christians have to agree with when they live under Islamic rule. • We the Christians will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, • Nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration • Nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims. • We the Christians will not prevent any Muslim from resting in our churches whether they come by day or night, and we will open the doors [of our houses of worship] for the wayfarer and passerby. • Those Muslims who come as guests, will enjoy boarding and food for three days. • We the Christians will not allow a spy against Muslims into our churches and homes or hide deceit [or betrayal] against Muslims. • We will not teach our children the Qur'an, • Publicize practices of Shirk (polytheism), • Invite anyone to Shirk or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so. • We will respect Muslims, • Move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them. • We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names, or ride on saddles, • Hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons. • We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic, • or sell liquor. • We will have the front of our hair cut, • Wear our customary clothes wherever we are, • Wear belts around our waist, • Refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches • and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets. • We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely, • or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims, • Nor raise our voices [with prayer] at our funerals, • or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets. • We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead, • or buy servants who were captured by Muslims. • We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes.' • We will not beat any Muslim.
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  36.  @donthomson10  Of course our God of the Bible stopped the Jews. Surely you know that much?
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  37.  @DisgruntledNorwegian  I assume our Muslims friend don't know that Uthman burnt all the different versions of the quran invented by Mohammed. So let me help them. >> Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to 'Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. 'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. 'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Said bin Thabit added, "A Verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and I used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33.23) << . Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 We read in the hadith Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 that some 20 years AFTER Mohammed had died, different groups of Muslims recited the quran so differently that it was feared that fights would break out between these groups as to who was reciting Mohammed's quran correctly. That shows that the memorization of the quran had failed completely just 20 years after Mohammed had died as minor differences in pronunciation would not lead to fights. So Uthman compiled the quran and made it ONE quran written in only ONE dialect. Uthman then burnt all the originals based on what Mohammed had recited which means NOBODY today has the quran according to the recitation of Mohammed. So you claim that Mohammed recited the quran in different modes is totally irrelevant as NOBODY today has any one of the recitation of Mohammed. Today we know of some 40 different Arabic versions of the quran, all written by unknown people AFTER the time of Uthman. So the evidence is quite clear, the quran invented by Mohammed was burnt by Uthman, so nobody today knows what Mohammed actually said and the many different Arabic qurans we can buy clearly prove that all these modern qurans are corrupted as they differ in MEANING. And differences in accent does not change the meaning. And all of Uthmans qurans have been lost as well, so no-one can check what Uthman wrote. And we have Islamic sources that tell us that more than 200 verses of Surah 33 have been lost. And some sources tell us that the quran should have 111 surahs and other tell us that the quran should have 116 surahs. So did Muslims add surahs or did they delete them and what happened to the missing verses of surah 33? So did Mohammed lie about his allah guarding the quran or was Mohammed's allah not capable of doing this? Again this all shows that the quran was NOT preserved which means that Mohammed was a false prophet.
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  38.  @kimiyoo5826  Is that the best logic you can come up with?? Read Genesis 1:1-3 which are the first three verses of the Bible. There we read in verse one about Gods (plural) creating the universe. In verse two we read that the Spirit of God (=Holy Spirit) is hovering over the waters and in verse 3 we read that God spoke which he logically does through His Word which is Jesus. So there in the first three verses of the Bible we have the Trinity. Now tell me, where in the quran does it refer to the Trinity and where does it say that the Trinity is false.
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  39.  @kimiyoo5826  Surah 5:72 >> They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allāh is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allāh, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allāh - Allāh has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers. << — Saheeh International Now we see that in the Shahada Muslims associate Mohammed as a partner to his allah. That means that according to this verse no Muslims will ever get to Mohammed's paradise. Surah 5:73 >> They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allāh is the third of three."1 And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. << — Saheeh International No Christians believes that the ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible is "the third of three", Clearly Mohammed and his allah did not understand what Christians believe which proves that Mohammed was a FALSE prophet.
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  40.  @kimiyoo5826  That verse is well known, so what is your point?
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  41.  @kimiyoo5826  Of course Jesus is not Christians has Jesus is "the Christ" and Christians are those who follow Jesus the Christ. So logically Jesus cannot follow Himself. Strange that you are so ignorant to even put forward such a question. And are you really so ignorant of Christianity that you do not know that Christians pray to only our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible?? So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you or anyone else to heaven?
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  42.  @kimiyoo5826  So what is your point? Or do you not even know that this only means that Jesus said that there is no other way for us as humans to be saved? In case you so ignorant, Jesus says >> John 14:6 English Standard Version >> 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. << So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you or anyone else to heaven?
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  43.  @kimiyoo5826  So tell me, who does Mohammed's allah follow? And does Mohammed's allah worship God the Father? So tell me, why would you believe that you as a simple human being can understand God?
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  44.  @kimiyoo5826  Yes last message fro God was sent in the Gospel of Jesus the Messiah. So yes, if you follow Jesus you will get to heaven. So why do you follow Mohammed?
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  45.  @kimiyoo5826  You seem confused my friend. John and Matthew were disciples of Jesus and were taught by Jesus, so logically they could not write something down what Jesus said before Jesus had said it. And yes, Jesus very clearly says that ONLY through following what Jesus taught will anyone get to heaven. So tell me, where in the quran does Mohammed say that he is the truth and the way to heaven?
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  46.  @kimiyoo5826  Jesus says in John 10:30-33 that He and the Father are one. That raises the question “one what”? From the context we read in verse 33 that the Jews who Jesus was talking to wanted to kill Jesus for saying that He is God. So clearly Jesus said that He and the Father are ONE GOD. Now if Jesus is God then Mohammed insulted God by calling Jesus just a prophet. On the other hand if Jesus is not God then saying that He and the Father are ONE GOD would make Jesus a liar and blasphemer which means that Mohammed insulted God by saying that a liar and blasphemer is a prophet of God. So irrespective if Jesus is God or not it means that Mohammed insulted God by calling Jesus a prophet. Of course anyone who insults God cannot be a prophet of God. So anyone who denies the divinity of Jesus calls Jesus a liar and blasphemer and does not respect Jesus at all.
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  47.  @kimiyoo5826  You have been lied to my friend. The Jews wanted to kill Jesus because Jesus said that He is God. God the Father was known to the Jews all along. Why would I ask you, if Jesus and the Father are ONE GOD?? Jesus tell us that He and the Father are ONE GOD, so no need to ask you. So do you know what that means? It means that there is ONE GOD and both Jesus and the Father are this ONE GOD. By the way there is nothing about any purpose in those verses, so we know Zakir Naik lied when he made this claim. And the purpose of Jesus to come to us here on earth is to show us Gods plan for our salvation. Again Zakir Naik lied to you. And nowhere does God the Father ever say that we must worship Him. Why would God state the obvious? So are you so in love with Zakir Naik that you have made yourself blind? By the way you do know Zakir Naik is wanted for money laundering and supporting terrorism? So Zakir Naik is a liar and a criminal, you really believe that being love with such an evil person will get you to heaven? Mohammed insulted Jesus all the time. If Jesus is God then Mohammed insulted God by calling Jesus just a prophet. On the other hand if Jesus is not God then saying that He and the Father are ONE GOD would make Jesus a liar and blasphemer which means that Mohammed insulted God by saying that a liar and blasphemer is a prophet of God. So irrespective if Jesus is God or not it means that Mohammed insulted God by calling Jesus a prophet. Of course anyone who insults God cannot be a prophet of God. So anyone who denies the divinity of Jesus calls Jesus a liar and blasphemer and does not respect Jesus at all. So Mohammed insulted not only Jesus he also insulted our Almighty God of the Bible. You say >> i m trying to tell you that the author of the bible is the one liar. << In Surah 3:3 Mohammed tells us that God revealed the Torah and the Gospel, which of course make them the Word of God as that is how God reveals. And in Surah 6:115 Mohammed tells us that none can change the Word of God. Logically according to the quran, the Torah and the Gospel we have today must be the original Word of God. So now you are calling our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible who revealed the Bible a liar?? How will you answer that on judgement day? Mohammed never wrote any one of the many different Arabic qurans we can buy today. All the authors of these different qurans are unknown. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you or anyone else to heaven?
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  48.  @kimiyoo5826  We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba because Mohammed’s allah commanded Mohammed to do so. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place where pagans worshipped some 360 idol gods at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jakob would never have commanded or even condoned that one of His prophets would bow down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jakob. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? All we know for certain is, that Mohammed’s allah is not our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible. So the many different Arabic qurans we can buy are only based on what Mohammed maybe said. In fact Mohammed’s message is the first and only message of Mohammed and his allah. Our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible certainly had nothing to do with what Mohammed maybe recited. And of course Jesus tells us the only way to heaven, so why would anyone need an evil war-lord who robbed, raped, murdered, committed adultery, tortured and enslaved women and little children and who corrupted what our TRUE GOD of the Bible taught? Obviously nobody needs Mohammed and the evil he taught. The only one who is very confused is you my friend. Of course Christians believe in the OT and everybody knows that the OT was written before Jesus came to us here on earth. So why do you reject the Torah and the Gospel? According to the qurans (plural) the Bible is the unchanged Word of God. And according to the Old Testament as well as the Gospel Mohammed was a false prophet. So why do you not follow what God teaches in the Bible? But do tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed who is the only messenger of islam will get you are anyone else to heaven? I must have missed the verse in the quran that states >> if you follow Mohammed then you will get to heaven and be with God for all eternity <<
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  49.  @kimiyoo5826  Muslims have back-stabbed the Christians and Jews throughout the 1400 years of existence. Jews are only defending themselves against the attacks by the Palestinians. And the Bible tells us that all who fight the Jews will be punished for doing so. So we know that the Palestinian leadership that keeps on attacking Israel will not get to heaven. And just read the Revelations of Jesus the Messiah and you will know all you need to know about judgement day. But do tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed who was the only messenger of islam will get anyone to heaven?
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  50.  @kimiyoo5826  You want me to read your comments, then copy and paste them here my friend.
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