Comments by "Iazzaboyce" (@Iazzaboyce) on "Channel 4 News" channel.

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  8. A second in/out referendum: There could be no £9 million government leaflet supporting Remain 2016 ‘project fear’ will be exposed as propaganda ‘Project fear part two’ will be ridiculed The 2016 racist slurs against Leave voters would not be effective A second referendum would be seen as being anti democratic, a waste of time and money In 2016 there was huge ‘status quo’ advantage for Remain - this no longer exists Since 2016, EU leaders have made disparaging remarks towards UK Leave would argue the UK’s relationship with EU is irrevocably damaged In 2016 the perception was Remain would win - some people just like to win In 2016 Remain seemed the safer option - those in ‘two minds’ more likely to have voted Remain In 2016 Leave bus said ‘£350 million’ a second referendum Leave bus would say ‘£39 billion’ Leave would argue the UK crawling back to the EU would be national humiliation Leave would argue the UK could never be serious in negotiations with EU again UK ‘opt outs’ would be seen as worthless In a second referendum Remain would not be able to exploit the murder of female Remain MP Most under 35s would support Remain without having to go to a polling station Deceased over 55s would be replaced by new living over 55s Recently bereaved non voters would use their vote to proxy deceased Leavers Remain would have no popular leading figures... Vince Cable? Politicians on all sides would be wary of nailing themselves to the mast of a sinking Remain cause Leave leaders would look like winners deprived of rightful opportunity Leave campaigners would deride Remain as anti democratic, anti British Remain would look like bad losers and the pendulum would swing Bring it on
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  43.  @seriousthree6071  The message contained a statement of fact: "We send the EU 350 million per week" and a suggestion: "let's fund the NHS instead". The statement of fact appears to be accurate, as the UK does send this amount to the EU (confirmed by the UK Statistics Authority). Whilst, it is true that, the EU returns and uses some of this money for projects in the UK, this fact does not alter the validity of the original fact and this is particularly so, given the ‘fiscal independence’ context of the Brexit referendum. This first part of the bus message is therefore, not a lie. Now the 'suggestion'. A 'suggestion' or ‘proposal’ cannot be a statement of 'fact' under any circumstances, so this part of the bus message cannot be adjudged to be 'false'. Also a 'suggestion' cannot be a 'promise' so there can be no expectation that the terms of a referendum suggestion should be carried out by the person that made the suggestion or by a person that, concurred with the suggestion when there has been no opportunity to do so. So the bus message is not a lie. In pure fiscal terms, the bus message was entirely accurate, as the saving would be always used to 'fund the NHS' for as long as NHS was state funded and expenditure exceeded 350 million per week. This is because all government spending comes from the same coffer; moreover, the government was borrowing more than this amount to meet its spending commitments. The referendum was not a general election, the Leave supporting MPs were not going to form a government and the public fully understood this. Indeed, the only people complaining the NHS has not received this money are people that, voted to keep sending it to the EU. An example of a message that is an actual lie, is the claim made repeatedly by the Remain supporting media and Remain activists that, 'the EU funds the UK' in various ways. Of course, this is fiscally impossible, as the facts easily prove the UK has always funded the EU.
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