Comments by "chris sonofpear1" (@chrissonofpear1384) on "Jubilee" channel.

  1.  @Adjingkrak  Well, that wasn't my choice, or theirs. And am agnostic, anyway. But how DOES heaven become imperfect, to begin with, btw?
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  2. How so? And what of those born into other religions? And what becomes of Jews? I assume no one will torture them again?
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  3. I get very confused by religion in general. No offence, you say THEY are confused, but I see Christians argue with EACH other on youtube all the time, from various denominations. And they never had someone try to imprison or exterminate ALL of them...
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  4.  @emperorsponge9208  Aha. So, do they ever admit Hosea 9:12-16 exists, widely - or Romans 8:29, or 2 Timothy 1:9...?
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  5.  @ellacarter9863  In a very, very broad sense? And not like they did 100 years ago, and 500 years ago, and 800 years ago?
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  6. Yes, funny how theology can often try to have it both ways at once...
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  7.  Spencer Tracy  Why? Why did it happen at all? And what knowledge WERE Adam and Eve SUPPOSED to have, to protect a world, with? Since it WASN'T of good; evil; that God HAD enemies; that THEY had enemies; that ANY disloyal or dangerous being could ENTER Eden? That they could hand over much of a world to an outsider being, with one hasty act? Shall I go on?
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  8.  @youcannotspeaktomeanyhow  Sorry - dude in Spain who had some... funny ideas, about converting Jews, by force.
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  9. Or both appear to be unusual, in terms of 'impulses', anyway.
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  10.  @acemxe8472  well as many Christians to this day claim half or more of those typically labelling selves as Christians do not in fact count (either denominationally, by sect or by region) then I'm sure the numbers are a bit more ambiguous, over all. Islam has slightly the same problem, but I gather they do not have the same hard dividing lines between creeds, Christologies, Vatican I and II and other disputes, either...
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  11. I can't, sorry. I do not do well with gaps. What is the 'natural man', and why was Satan owed anything? Also, are we saved from God, Satan, or ourselves...
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  12. Was sex implied in Numbers 31 completely normal?
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  13.  @zachsnack2046  Proof it. What of neglect? Manipulation? Lack of control over his own Popes or Priests? lack of guidance of them? Resultant in CRIMINAL mistreatment of many Jews, slaves, and others? And why could Satan also revisit YHWH?
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  14. I still await to see how Old Testament defines sexual consent, per you, Alpha?
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  15. @RedTape Not relevant, until the above topics are cleared up - Exodus 21:20, Numbers 31:18, and all.
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  16. @King Love would also maybe be to explain why we are in danger of such wrath, to begin with, and what role two semi ignorant humans in Eden could POSSIBLY have played in it? Or whatever Satan was owed, post exile. Without that, there is no - truth. And see Romans 8:30, and Matthew 7:14, too. Define also 'gone out of their way'? Did Pope Paul III go 'out of his way' and what response, divinely, did that provoke? Or Torquemada? Or several kings and more, within ostensibly Christian nations? Meantime, we see that - wrath - on display in 2 Samuel 24. And there, David WAS REPENTANT, even if we do not know if the 70,000 Hebrews who then paid a penalty for his actions, were.
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  17.  @whateveryoulikeilike6475  Who jeopardized us? From birth? By thunder sir, one of you WILL explain. And if Eve had ANY idea who Satan was, or how dangerous he was - or stakes to more than just two naive humans in Eden. And how can 'natural men' 'come as they are' or 'repent' either, ala 1 Corinthians 2:14? With equal possibility, too?
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  18. rockafellowdw - so God takes NO responsibility for the feelings or desires people have ended up with then? Genetically, hereditarily, culturally? Yet He sets up nations to endure under Principalities/watchers, and subject to temptations?
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  19. And how was the process achieved? And how will it be streamlined to work in all churches? Not an attack - a probing question.
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  20. Er, this God you speak of seemingly created the ENTIRE situation, and let Satan onto this world at all, though, @Picasso Black ? For his... glory?
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  21. Maybe it's a particularly American and Italian aspect?
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  22. A promise of devastation, also? And why did Satan get to come back into heaven, at all? Anyway, I speak of Mark O'Shiro, and others, who begged Him to not be gay, and got no answer...
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  23. And there was also Romans 1:20, usually assumed to refer to homosexuals (although it could be predatory rapists, for all Paul fails to stick to narrower definitions...)
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  24. Speaking as an agnostic, and from what I observe, there are two basic types: Those who believe God either does not exist or cannot be reliably proven to, and those who would not agree God can be defined at all, seeing a fairly paradoxical or tautological definition thereof to usually be given.
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  25. Seems possible.
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  26.  @tinkerinjones6604  Err - liar? Esau, Ham's son, the Amalekites, Gideonites, David's INFANT SON in 2 Samuel 15:18, perhaps - not so equally loved? And if Jesus was the ONLY ONE to do so, then why didn't He STAY INVOLVED with the main churches, more, instead of letting them screw up so much? What of the Bride of Christ, and what of Romans 13:1?
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  27.  @tinkerinjones6604  Err, so giving us a SIN NATURE before, birth, by what AN IGNORANT, human, did, hastily - this is nothing, like, programming, a robot, yes? or 'spiritual death', whatever the HECK that is. Can any ANGEL, give, or pass that - to another? And why did He SCATTER all humans, post Babel, when they were finally, ready, to all be taught? Give Satan ANOTHER head start, was it? Still not forgetting Romans 9:22, here, eiiitherrr...
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  28.  @naria2224  Qualify it, then - 'not necessarily' isn't good enough, here. And ordinary peasants and other people, and Africans, had FAR LESS free will, choices, options, or safety, than wealthy or closeted clerics, translators, kings, priests, Popes, and bishops - all of who, could DEMAND they go to war, for them, often against each other, and those who were essentially believing the same thing as them, too. And not even get to READ all the bible, in their own language, instead having it 'interpreted' to them - complete with Augustine's, own, unique take on 1 Corinthians 10, perhaps, and the word 'typoi', as well, as applied to Jews. Jews, then, within Christendom, frequently denied many basic rights and safeties, driven out, forcibly converted, tortured, mobbed, or having synagogues and Torahs burned, or caught up in pogroms, etc, etc. It's rather a LOT, to blame, just on free will, isn't it? Doesn't this God find some things DETESTABLE? And is willing to make that VERY clear, in writing if you were an ancient Hebrew? Or if you gathered sticks, on Sabbath? Seemed very... invested, in those cases, perhaps disproportionately, so. And what has free will got to do with letting TWO IGNORANT humans in Eden, 'chose' for if we inherit a sin nature, or be born 'spiritually dead', either - in ways no angel could ever 'chose' for other angels? Also, there are a number of Old Testament verses, that mitigate somewhat against the idea of us fully controlling our will. Maybe, though, that is not so, for the... elect...
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  29.  @Aliyaaaa  They're one union? I must have read a different history of the last 1200 years, then. Otherwise, fair play.
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  30. Because of brokenness? Did He wish brokenness to exist?
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  31. Just that it may need to be cured somehow? (don't worry, we're all confused)
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  32. I agree. And then the FULL range of views about what original sin and free will are might be discussed...
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  33. Plus, the book likely contains omissions at times?
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  34.  @andreasmunzer1143  Yes, even 'natural men'?
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  35.  @adriana12995  And yet it happens, and there was plenty of moral relativism in Leviticus, Numbers, Samuel and Joshua. Also, how proud were prior medieval churches, of their own bizarre degeneracies, that led to actual pogroms? Actual, d*mn, pogroms?
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  36. How were they perverted, then, @Surmay Sofia ? By humans, or by Satan? And does that make him another creator? And how did any angels devolve, or become perverted, in a realm where the invisible qualities, of this god, were wholly visible? Also Numbers 31:17, what sexual or marital concepts were fully intended or not, there?
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  37. So which is it? Love god above siblings or even parents - or love each other? They always make it a dilemma.
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  38. And have we fully DISCUSSED Numbers 31:17 yet, Omega?
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  39. He made an effort, at least. Dogmatic, but I've seen far nastier types than him...
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  40.  @donimikooyouknow9240  It does not say it completely clearly, and depends what an 'effeminate' or an arsenokoi is, I suppose.
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  41. There's more than one version of Buddhism, though.
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  42. It contradicts basic compassion, common sense and morality, much times, also - that book.
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  43. How? Which specific truth? Why are there omissions in the backstory? And did Eve know of the stakes to more than her and Adam, when in Eden?
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  44. Make a law, then, pointdexter? Also, how do you change someone 'being' something? Without... ah, threat... of vi-o-lence, for one?
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  45.  @jordant889  So, again, why either OWE him anything, or TRUST him with anything? To what end? And why could he be back in heaven? Also, how do any angels become IGNORANT of God? A God who's nature and presence PERVADED heaven? And what WAS meant to happen to Jews, post Matthew 27:25?
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  46. Until James 3:15 and Romans 1:20 are RECONCILED, do we really have a complete biblical picture of what IS NATURAL? Also, regarding Corinthians 2:14...
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  47.  @mcsuck1  There are ways it can arise though - without leaning on absurd, violent jealous tribal stories. If we leave the metaphysical and teleological aspects more open ended too, might be easier.
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  48. Got no issues with it, myself. Minor concerns about how children are so defined, within it.
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  49.  @Dwayne_Tribe  Yes, whether potentially to captive women in Numbers 31:17 or not, I guess? And where do you stand on bequeathing some people as slaves, for life?
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  50. @ArabīAlayhā I think you mean 2028 years ago, maybe, around spring, maybe in Galilee, or Nazareth - but likely not in Bethlehem, upon detailed analysis.
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