Comments by "J Nagarya" (@jnagarya519) on "The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder"
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@daddyaf945 I've been at this for more than 50 years. The vast majority of voters are MODERATE -- er, to quote Sanders "fans, "centrists," which to them is ubiquitous with the word "corrupt". They don't know what they are talking about, though they sure are full of themselves with kowing it all. It's oh-so-easy to spin pie-in-the-sky fantasies when reality is unknown and rejected.
It isn't that complicated an equation, suggested "solutions" which do not exist IN REALITY notwithstanding:
With Republican gerrymandering -- the Supreme Court held that the Federal gov't can't interene, which removes the Federal gov't from enforcing civil rights against state abrogation of them -- Republican voter-purgings, and Republican invitations to foreign powers to subvert the election, and TONS more money than the Democrats have, the Democrats need all the votes they can get. But Republicans who don't want a repeat of Trump willl vote for Trump before they'll vote for a Socialist.
Further: Sanders "fans" are jabbering "oligarphs" as concerns Bloomberg. First, Bloomberg didn't inherit his wealth. Second, he has been a Democrat and a Republican becuase he isn't an ideologue. Third, he didn't run for office in 2017-18, but he did fund Democratic camapgins around the country, and that helped the Democrats win the House. And he has siad: if not the nominee, he will be putting his money into the campaign ANYWAY in suport of Democrats and against Republicans/Trump.
The vast majority is moderate. What they want -- I don't think Buttigieg is the key -- is young and moderate. Sure, they are currently divided between voting for issues, and focusing on the most important issue: getting Trum[p and his openly criminal enterprise out of office. Hopefully that will increasingly shift to focusing entirely on the latter. Bloomberg recognizes the danger, the threat, to the rule of law that is the Trump-Barr alliance. That is paramount above all else.
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@Salmon I didn't say anything about fiscal conservatives. Where did you get the idea that "centrists" are ipso facto "fiscal conservatives"?
Seder, I listened to you and Garfalo on "Air America"t talk about the 1960s. I was there, you were not: you didn't know then what you were talking about, and you dom't know today. I've been politically aware and active for longer than you've been alive; Sanders is talking the same failed far-LEFT folderol that failed THEN.
Wake up: Barr just established DOJ "policy" to "investigate" anyone who appears to be a political threat to Trump. While Treasury/Bar are withholding Trump's tax information from Congress, and rguing in court -- next step the SC -- that the demand for Trump's tax returns is "uncontitutional," immediately after the "acquittal" vote, two Republican Senators requested Hunter Biden's tax information from Treasury, and it was immediately provided to them.
And you continue to talk ideological claptrap, and push the other vindictive prick, Sanders. Ask yourself if it is a coincidence that both Trump and Sanders' campaign managers were the same two people -- one of them Manafort -- who worked together in Ukriane electing the corrupt pro-Russian president who was subsequently pushed out by the Ukrainian people. And at the beginning of the 2016 primary, the Sanders campaign got caught hacking the DNC, and the campaign manager was forced to resign. Yeah, I know: you're "anti"-corruption -- depending on whose.
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You aren't a Republican, but you do believe the illusion.
Face reality: with Republican gerrymandering, Republican voter-purgings, and Republican invitations to foreign subversion of the election, the Democrats need all the votes they can get. Republicans who don't want a repeat of Trump will vote for Trump before they'd vote for a Socialist,.
And Sanders' writings, when in his 30s. about young children and sex will be all over the media. If nomiinated he'd be destroyed in a week.
And if not nominated we'll likely hear the same excuse about "cheating" -- leaving out the fact that his first campaign manager was forced to resign when it was revealed that his -- Sanders' -- campaign hacked the DNC at the beginning of the primary.
And then stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Trump with his own serial lying about releasing his tax returns.
Yeah, I know: let's bury the facts about Sanders behind attacks on those who have the temerity to not forget the facts about him, and -- worse -- state them publicly.
Let's, in short, be as corrupt as Trump's "fans".
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@skwisgaar451 Not if we ignore the mainstream media because it doesn't preach Sanders 24/7.
Wake up: by attacking the Democratic Party AGAIN -- the largest block of Liberal/Progressive/Left voters -- he is being divisive AGAIN. And what do his "defenders" do? They run with and enhance the divisiveness.
The Republicans needn't do anything to divide-and=-conquer the Democrats: Sanders, and his cult followers, -- who are exultant in the fantasy that they know it all -- will do it for them.
I saw exactly the same thing on the Left during the 1960s. And what happened to the Left? After the the US was withdrawn from Vietnam, it collapsed because it didn't have a new enemy to oppose. One's view must be based not on externals. One must have an informed moral compass. While I was the only one I knew during high school who was vocal against US involvement in Vietnam, 99 per cent of my peers were either wrapped up in TeeVee as their only source of information, or hanging out on the street corner complaining of being bored, and name-calling me for my position.
The reason I knew US involvement in Vietnam was a fraud was because I READ HISTORY, centrally the anti-imperialism of REPUBLICAN Mark Twain. Vietnam was a repeat of the US's actions in the Philippines during the late 19th century.
And why did McGovern lose? Not because he was far-Left -- he was not. And far-Left had even less a chance than he. Because Nixon talked of "peace with honor" vis-a-vis Vietnam. I knew there was no honor about any of it -- that the US was involved violated the Geneva Conventions.
Sanders is a one-note song; and te only song most of his supporters have ever heard and listened to. He tells you to reject all other views -- AND YOU SHEEPISHLY OBEY THAT ORDER. So you smear imaginary "corporatists/centrists" because you know nothing of the gradations and greys. To hear the media -- including mainstream -- tell it, there are only "Left and Right". The political spectrum has many more degrees than that. And they aren't only Left-Centrist-Right. Liberals are Left of center, but to the Right of Progressive. and the Left, so-called, is to the LEFT of Progressive.
The Left that is Sanders has ALWAYS DEMANDED that they get ALL of what they want NOW! And that's why they've never got it: the REFUSE to compromise in order to get AT LEAST SOME of what they want. Social Security is the perfect example: when first enacted it was not extended to African-Americans. Why? Because it needed the votes of Southern racists to pass. It was later AMENDED to correct that defect.
The same is true of the Affordable Care Act: it is a BEGINNING, not the whole of what can be built on it. DEAL WITH IT: INCREMENTALISM is how DEMOCRATIC legislative process WORKS. One gets what one can -- compromise gets the votes of those opposed -- and then builds on it.
Want "it" ALL NOW? Then prepare to be frustrated, because that ain't gonna happen.
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Sanders "fans" are, in a word, stupid. They know it all, just like Sanders, and just like Trump. So smear Democrats and help Trump.
"The fact of the matter is," Seder, that Bloomberg spent much money supporting DEMOCRATIC candidates, which is how the Democrats took the House. He has also siad: that if not the nominee, he will continue to fund DEMOCRATS and work with his money to DEFEAT TRUMP. How is smearing an ALLY different than Trump smearing the Bidens, or Ukraine? Yeah, I know: you hate those about whom you actually know nothing true -- Clinton, Biden -- and do the opposite with Sanders.
Sanders voted to PROTECT the gun industry -- a TOP PRIORITY of the extremist right-wing ANTI-"Soclaist"/ANTI-American domestic terrorist organization NRA. That's your boy, who claims to be a LEFTIST.
Paul Manafort and his partner helped elect the pcorrupt pro-Russian president of Ukraine who was subsequently pushed out by the Ukrainian people.
Manafort and his partner next became the managers of the Trump and Sanders campaings. Coincidence?
Are you so pro-Sanders/Trump that you're also pro-Russian?
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