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@jamesirvine2579 Close fight or not, Taylor won it. I'd like to see a rematch down the road when both are free to do so. But there's business to take care of elsewhere before that can happen.
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@ironkongpk4849 Mexicans never have and never will run boxing. You barely have any wins at world level without a mass of advanatges attached. Try it and see if you think otherwise. Japan, Ukraine, UK and Russia are the real fighting nations.
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@sAMMYsILVER. I asked for the world level wins from the US, not for you to deflect. By doing that, it shows you're not confident. List all supposed champions from the US, Mexico, and Peurto Rico? I think you have your numbers messed up.
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@sAMMYsILVER. Catterall hasn't lost in that time. So how can this be an invalid argument? Claiming so and so would win is not an argument against actual facts. We're dealing in facts here, not feelings. I think you mean Teo fought and beat a Taylor who was coming off a loss and being out of the ring for 16 months to which he looked like a shot fighter. Had Taylor been at his best, Teo not only would have lost to him as Taylor is a superior fighter, but would have had no wish to fight him. He only did so because he was weakened due to inactivity. You only need to look at Americans and Mexicans fighting those who are inactive, coming off a loss, drained or shot before they fight them. Go and look at the vast majority of their opponents and tell me what you see? Then see what happens to them when they're the ones under these conditions. They lose them all. Catterall has a style that would have him win every round against Teo. Teo is a low level fighter who can't deal with boxers on the back foot. How many times do you need to see him being incapable of fighting on the front foot before you accept this reality? He carefully selects his opponents because he knows he isn't good enough. He lost against Ortiz, Martin and Kambosos for a reason. Taylor was shot due to inactivity, and Loma really was a draw. His only viable win over someone fringe or world class without any funny business is Commey. Nearly everyone who watched the Loma vs Haney fight had Loma winning. Only those from the US claimed otherwise. We know why they'd justify a robbery. They justify all the others too. Are you saying Rolly legitimately stopped Barroso? Barroso dominated and dropped Rolly and had a corrupt ref stop the fight when Barroso didn't even get hit at the time of stoppage. It was in fact Rolly who did. You only need to look at the corruption Toney Weeks as ref has been involved in. All of it in favour of American fighters. The US only has 5 real title holders. That's a fact when looking at the evidence. Claiming a robbery as legitimate is invalid. No matter how biased you are. Do you want to tell me how many Mexicans hold legitimate titles, or do i have to do the work for you again? Are you going to tell me how many legitimate world level wins Americans have without any funny business, or do i have to do that work for you too? Do you even accept per capita as the only way to get a factual and rational reading?
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@sAMMYsILVER. The US actually has 5, not 12 world title holders. I've already shown you the facts. But it seems you're not willing to continue this discussion with someone who is educated. You'd prefer to run off as you know you can't compete with the facts. Typical.
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@decidingpaper6324 He hasn't made a fair point as the US really only has 5 world title holders. The rest are illegitimate. I've already proven that on this very thread. Sammy doesn't wish to engage further with me though as he knows i know my stuff. He only wants to engage with those who don't expose his arguments.
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@sAMMYsILVER. I'll break this down to one point at a time so you can't write a load of nothingness in reply. You agreed Catterall beat Taylor. So if he beat Taylor when he was undisputed and hasn't lost in that time, how can i be dealing in feelings and not facts? All you're doing is firing back at me what i'm saying to you. The huge difference is, i can justify my comments. You agree with them then contradict yourself again. That's why i say you're dealing with feelings over facts. Catterall is the real champion. You agree with that fact as you say he beat Taylor. Now do you understand when i say you're dealing in nothing but feelings?
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AlexWilliamson-ld3zn It seems all your replies have been shadow banned due to them containing nothing of any substance. However, you say you're from the country that runs Heavyweight boxing. You're not a Brit or from the Ukraine. So, why lie? Are you too embarrassed to say where you're from? You refuse to actually name the country. Would you like to try that again? But this time, actually name the country.
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@sAMMYsILVER. It's delusion even though you agree that Catterall beat Taylor? So you're delusional then? What you mean is, you want to deflect and shut this discussion down as you know i'll expose every inch of what you write. Catterall clearly beat Taylor and that is based in reality and facts. Those who do not wish to engage in facts and reality are biased and do so to pretend otherwise because it benefits them. But it is all corruption and falsehoods. Nothing you've said has any value what-so-ever. Anyone can cheat and be corrupt. Well, those not good enough otherwise. And that's where you come in. Your fighters are not good enough unless they do so. It's why they need it en mass. They do nothing but lose otherwise. It's why you deflected again when i asked for legitimate world level victories without any funny business. You're clearly insecure about the truth. That has been made very clear by you. You're as dishonest as your fighters. But you live a complete lie.
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@sAMMYsILVER. If it's a delusion to think Catterall is the real champion, then you're delusional as you agree that Catterall clearly won. But now you're contradicting yourself? You're the only one i've seen who thinks Rolly is the real WBA champ after getting dominated by Barroso and not even get hit at time of stoppage. The facts are seen on screen. Only delusion and lies would allow anyone to think differently. Check out the comments on all the fight videos and see who is right and wrong here. See who the delusional one is.
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@ILVER. Look at you are with all the ad hominem attacks. Haha. You're desperate to shut this down. It's different isn't it when delusion is exposed. You even played the same game when the reply was an hour later yesterday. You even questioned my IQ when it came to your comment being shadow banned, you claimed it was my problem and that i should have the IQ to find it. Priceless. You said my arguments were "Filled with baseless claims of robberies" even though you agreed. How can they be baseless when you agree? How can they be baseless when everyone agrees Barroso was ripped off? Your argument is all over the place. It's clear where the delusion is coming from. Oh, by the way. When you said this was eating away at me, learn what projection is. Nothing was eating away at me. But you? Yeah, you gave it away with every post. I think i proved my points quite nicely, don't you?
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@sAMMYsILVER. All you're throwing is ad hominem attacks. You're desperate to shut this down. It's different isn't it when someone can't get away with actual baseless claims . You even played the same game when the reply was an hour later yesterday. You even questioned my IQ when it came to your comment being shadow banned, you claimed it was my problem and that i should have the IQ to find it. Priceless. You said my arguments were "Filled with baseless claims of robberies" even though you agreed. How can they be baseless when you agree? How can they be baseless when everyone agrees Barroso was ripped off? Your argument is all over the place. Oh, by the way. When you said this was eating away at me, learn what projection is. Nothing was eating away at me. It was with you though, you gave it away with every post. I think i proved my points quite nicely, don't you?
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@sAMMYsILVER. Have you resorted to blocking my comments now? It isn't being shadow banned as there isn't anything in the comment that could have it banned. I think that proves my point quite nicely.
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@sAMMYsILVER. How can it be my delusion on display when you said it was baseless that Catterall was robbed even though you agreed he was? How can it be my delusion when you said it was baseless with Rolly getting the robbery even though everyone agrees on all the video's of that fight? Point out the delusion to me? Be specific? You can't. It's clear who is though. You do read the comments. Why would you reply with all your comments otherwise? You just don't like it when your arguments are factually proven incorrect.
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Lou Dibella was involved with the Maxi Hughes decision as well as this one. He even had the audacity to call them both close fights. Maxi and Nina clearly won the fights. They weren't even remotely close.
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@cashree2370 Joyce is the WBO mandatory. And he's not old in fighting terms. He's in his prime and would wreak Ajagba in a very one sided fight that doesn't last long. it would be a violent beating. Dubois would bang him out too.
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Why would Bradley want to be the fighter who got dominated over the fighter who did the dominating?
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@gddd6061 The fact you think Mayer dominated proves his point. Not only did Sandy win the first, she won this fight too. No way she was getting any decision. No one from overseas is. The gifts in the US are en mass. That's all i'm seeing. It's always been bad over there. But it has nothing on the last 6 years.
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@gddd6061 The fact the word "Casual" was used tells me the mental age here. That's for kids. I've been around boxing for decades. And i know what i clearly saw, like i always do with boxing over there. Tell me which rounds Mayer won? Let's see you justify this. But guess what, i know for a fact you won't. You'll deflect and do everything but justify it.
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@jr3753 Who are these great Mexican fighters?
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@webdev7348 You can get marked by just a single jab. The truth is, Nina clearly won and Johnson isn't anywhere near to being even fringe class.
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Navarrete didn't pull the win as he was dominated here. Arum's corrupt judges pulled the "Win" as per usual.
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@Joe_Crow Conceicao clearly won this fight. Please tell me all 7 rounds Navarrete won as he only won 3 on my card. This was another TopRank robbery. Every single Mexican out there has many in their career.
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@torito880 You only get the extra point for a KD in the round you scored the KD in. You don't all of a sudden win any other round because of it. Conceicao was tired in the last round, not wobbling because Navarrete hurt him. Conceicao dominated this fight like he did against Valdez but was again ripped off.
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@Joe_Crow Give me every round Navarrete inflicted damage on canceicao and tell me what the damage was in that round? Navarrete was dominated. He lost. This was nothing but grotesque theft.
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@Joe_Crow I asked you to give me the 7 rounds Navarrete won? Where are they? I also asked you to tell me every round Conceircao was supposedly hurt in and what the damage was. Give me the rounds and the time on the clock. Your answer is vague and non specific. If it's true what you're saying, you'd be able to point it out directly. I know for a fact it isn't true, which is why you can't present any evidence for what you're saying here.
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@deisysanchez1641 So you're saying that anyone who is visibly hurt at any point in a fight, they automatically lose the fight, even if they clearly dominate the round and land a lot more punches than their opponent? Sorry, but that never has been or ever will be the case in scoring criteria. Give me just 7 rounds in which Navarrete won?
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@Joe_Crow Mexicans are the ones who get the most robberies in boxing today... Estrada vs Gonzales 1 and 2 Munguia vs Chenko and Hogan. Canelo vs Golovkin 1 and 2/ Lara. Valdez vs Conceicao. Lopez vs Warrington. Zurdo vs Vlasov. Navarrete vs Conceircao and Wilson. Jose Ramirez vs Postal and Zepeda. Fundora vs Garcia. Barrios vs Akhmedov. Valenzuela vs Spark. Isaac Cruz vs Cabrera. Zepeda vs Lundy. Jo jo Diaz vs Akhmedov. Lardizabal vs Alvarado. Martinez vs Batista and Carmona. Franco vs Moloney. Valladares vs Cuarto. McCaskill vs Ryan and Braekhus. Marlen Esparza vs pretty much most of her resume. These are just some recent ones. If you look throughout history, i'd be here for weeks. You claim that Mexicans get ripped off the most. Could you list all these supposed robberies? You also say Mexicans travel the most which is also not true. Mexicans mostly fight in the US as Mexico doesn't have a proper system so have to ply their trade in the US which is basically their base. Nearly all these robberies listed took place in the US so i don't count that as travelling. Outside of the US, Mexicans hardly ever travel. But if you claim so, then list all these fighters who travelled? Then i'll give you countries who have a serious history in travelling.
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@Joe_Crow No, what you mean is, you can't find the rounds to give to Navarrete so want to make excuses. Don't worry, i knew from the start you couldn't give me these rounds he won. I know exactly what i'm dealing with here.
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@Joe_Crow What happened to you telling me about all these robberies against Mexicans? What happened to you telling me about all these Mexicans who supposedly travel more than any other nation? Don't tell me, you're not going to re-watch all the robberies and Mexicans who travelled, to tell me? Haha. Yeah, same old, same old. Never has anyone from your end justified anything they say. Never.
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Of course Navarrete gave him his sombrero and a hug. He had just been dominated by the guy and saw him get ripped of by the judges.
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@ilan154 Give me 7 rounds in which Navarrete won? Just 7. Navarrete was out-landed in pretty much every round. He came nowhere near close to winning it.
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@ilan154 What happened to giving me all these round Navarrete won? If Navarrete dominated, it should be easy. But you've gone very quiet.
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@Rominator-qw4wm Who got a lucky draw?
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@deisysanchez1641 Not only did Navarrete not beat Conceicao, or come close to doing so, he also didn't land the harder punches overall. Navarrete did drop Conceicao, but when you break it down round by round, Conceicao clearly landed the better punches. I don't doubt you had Navarrete. Mexicans lose nearly every round and get a gift decision, but it gets justified by Mexican fans. They get so many robberies that they think it's normal and legitimate. It's not.
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@Marksman2024 Oh i agree Americans get decisions as well. But Brits and the Japanese? List these Brit and Japanese decisions. Mexicans receive the most in world boxing. That's a fact. I'm happy to list a load of them. But not until you come back with a list of British and Japanese ones.
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@Marksman2024 Rabbit punches are not robberies. What are you talking about? So you clearly made it up when saying Brits and Japanese fighters receive decisions in their favour? You said Brits and Japanese fighters get decisions too. I asked for you to give me a list of decisions in favour of Brits and Japanese fighters. But all you come back with is rabbit punches? How can they be described as robberies to you? For the record, Warrington wasn't to blame for most of the headbutts. Lara was. Lara even split Leigh Woods face open twice in the 2 fights. He just throws his head around when throwing punches.
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@kaynetrowbridge9267 Are you talking about the Stevenson final? Yeah, he did win it. And won it good too. Stevenson won 1 round, but Ramirez definitely won the other two. You'd have to be really incompetent in scoring fights or seriously biased to have Stevenson winning. Pick one.
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@cashree2370 I'm sorry, i don't even know what this is trying to say?
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It was an even fight. But anyone who knows about Mexicans know they can't score a fight to save their life. The most biased too. Awful fan base.
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He didn't even beat Warrington. But he "Kicked ass"? You're not only supposed to win when kicking ass, but to do so clearly. Lopez didn't come close to doing that against Warrington. In fact, Lopez spent half the fight getting beat up and holding on for dear life.
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@P.Alvarez You should look into strawman arguments. You'll see this at the top of the tree. Not only that, but Lara was active while Warrington had been out for 17 months. We all saw how well Lara does when he hasn't got an inactive opponent. He gets dominated.
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@ultrainstinct63 This fight was a draw. And no, Lopez doesn't have good defence. It's atrocious. He hangs his chin out all the time. He's very easy to hit. You clearly don't know what you're watching.
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@ch_raney8801 Lopez was the one holding on for dear life against Warrington. What are you talking about? Who are these Mexicans who don't suck? All the time they're looking for inactive opponents because they're cheating cowards. Whenever they fight an active fighter, they get dominated. But please get back to me with these Mexicans who are supposedly good and i'll point you in the right direction. Also tell me which ones are good to watch. I'll point you in the right direction there too.
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@P.Alvarez Again you're talking senseless. Where did i say Warrington wasn't knocked out? Could you please show me on the video where Warrington was the one who caused the head clashes? I'll show you it was in fact Lara. Just like it was when he split Woods face open with his head in both fights due to over throwing his punches. Ask yourself why Mexicans have gone after a mass of fighters who have been inactive. Ask yourself why only them and the US have so many opponents under these conditions. Those countries alone if you exclude the other, have more inactive opponents than the rest of the boxing world combined. They know the benefits on offer. Look at Canelo again going after an inactive Charlo who has been out for 18 months and is two weight classes smaller when there opponents fans want to see him against who are his weight and active? Why has Canelo got an entire career of opponents like this? Also ask yourself why Mexicans don't have any legit wins against world class opponents without any of this business going on. Huh? They duck active fighters to go after those who are vulnerable to load the table. Look what happened in the second Wood fight where Lara knew he didn't have the advantage of Leigh being inactive so cheated with the weight like so many Mexicans have done throughout history. But it wasn't enough. Lara was dominated with ease with Lara too scared to throw many punches. It changes everything whether you're active or not.
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@ch_raney8801 Lopez was the one holding on for dear life against Warrington. What are you talking about? Who are these Mexicans who don't suck? All the time they're looking for inactive opponents because they're looking for the advantage. Whenever they fight an active fighter, they get dominated. But please get back to me with these Mexicans who are supposedly good and i'll point you in the right direction. Also tell me which ones are good to watch. I'll point you in the right direction there too.
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@ch_raney8801 Show me the round and time on the video of the fight where it's Warrington being at fault? Or deflect and refuse the way i know you're going to do. You believe being inactive is an advantage against an active opponent when you look at the results in world boxing? Sorry, but that is laughable. Estrada fought Cortes whilst being inactive at home but still needed a gift. That was an opponent Estrada handpicked too. He was carefully selected due to Estrada being inactive. He didn't just get thrown in there with anyone. Yet, he still lost the fight. Point out as many actual world class wins for Mexicans where they're not sabotaged or inactive. It should be easy right? Well, give me these names. Eddie is always putting Brits in with Mexicans. He's putting an inactive Benn in against an active Orozco. He wanted to put Ryder in with Munguia but Munguia ducked the fight. But now he's coming off a defeat he's come sniffing round again because he likes opponents who are vulnerable. He put Yafia in with 3 out of his 5 fights thus far in his career. He wanted Martinez to fight Sunny Edwards but Martinez ran away. He's not looking for active fighters like the rest of them. Sunny is now facing Bam which is a better fight. Canelo drained Fielding before fighting him. Canelo gave Callum Smith only 3 weeks to prepare to gain advantage after refusing to fight him before Callum had fought Ryder and saw him struggle. Canelo made it worse knowing that he'd struggle to bring his huge frame down to the weight in 3 weeks. He fought Khan who was a welter for crying out loud whilst being a Middleweight. Lara fought Warrington who had been out for 17 months. Lara fought Wood who had been out for a year. Canelo is fighting a Charlo who is two weight classes smaller and inactive for 18 months. Canelo drained Jacobs even though they were fighting at the same weight. Canelo drained a shot Kovalev who didn't have time to rest from his last gruelling fight which was mere weeks away. I could be here all day giving you all the Mexicans doing this but i don't want to fill the thread with a massive post. It would be easier if you give me opponents of Mexicans who are world level who are active and fighting on a level playing field without any corruption or cheating going on.
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@ch_raney8801 I also asked you to give me these Mexicans who don't suck and are good to watch. Why aren't you answering the question. Also re-watch this fight with Lopez and see how often he's on the back foot. Yet you had the audacity to call other fighters "Runners". The irony is outstanding. Then watch how often he held on to Warrington in their fight and see if your opinion has any value or not.
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@P.Alvarez Which Brit got the judges score cards when he didn't deserve it? What are you talking about? You're just making it up as you go along. Don't worry though, i've known about this fan base for decades. I know exactly what i'm dealing with here. Haha.
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@P.Alvarez Yep, you're deflecting without answering any of the questions. It's because you know you can't as it exposes your fighters. Typical.
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