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  1. Yes but he adjusted too late. He didn't do much of anything until the 6th or 7th round. By then Madrimov had built a big lead. Madrimov wasn't setting the world on fire in those early rounds either, but I count punches using .25 slow motion and replay if necessary, and Madrimov landed more punches in each of the first 6 rounds.
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  2.  @HolyMackerel490  On my card he was, I go by punches landed and he landed more. Others gave Bud some early rounds I'm sure, but most judge by general impression and many are biased. I've never heard of Madrimov and I think that Bud is a great fighter. If he lands less punches, I have to use that to score a round.
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  3.  @commodoor6549  You said that I was delusional. Now you're saying having an opinion doesn't make it delusional.
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  4.  @paulchandler9060  Madrimov landed more than an occasional right hand, I counted 12 right hands in the first 4 rounds. Bud only landed both punches in a combination a few times the entire fight.
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  5.  @slimtruckinghunnit5207  Thank you. I had it 8-4, or 7-5 if I give Bud a sympathy round. Madrimov was great on defense and he landed that straight right over and over again.
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  6. Shawn Porter had Bud ahead 5-1 after 6 rounds, even though Madrimov had landed one more punch overall. Not only that but Madrimov landed more power punches than Bud throughout the fight. Power punches score higher than non-power punches so how can Shawn justify Madrimov landing more but losing 5-1? It shows that Shawn is very wrong about the rounds.
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  7. The commentator said that Bud was having a great 11th round. The other guy said it was the first round that he saw Bud take over. They made those comments after they said that Bud landed a big uppercut at 1:04:59 and a 3 punch combination at 1:05:20. The uppercut was blocked and only one of the 3 punch combination landed. Watching in slow motion makes all the difference, at regular speed it's nearly impossible to see if the punches are landing. Madrimov landed more in the 11th round 9-7, including 5 right hands. He won the 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th rounds. Bud won the 12th round, landing 23 to 18 for Madrimov. He also won 2 of the middle rounds but Madrimov won 4 of the first 5 rounds. Madrimov 8-4.
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  8. I'm sorry but Madrimov won the fight. In the last 2 rounds I heard that Bud came on strong and he did, but Madrimov came on even stronger. He must have landed 10 power shots in the last round. I had him winning 8-4.
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  9. Ward was biased for Madrimov?
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  10.  @malarki5  They seemed bias because Madrimov was winning the fight.
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  11. You've got Bud landing a few punches at 29:10 but he only threw 2 punches at that time. He landed a jab to the belly and missed a right over Madrimov's head. You gave Bud that round, he landed a total of 3 jabs in the round, that's it. Madrimov landed 3 straight rights and 3 body shots, how did Bud win the round?
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  12. I see how some people claim that Bud won. You said at the beginning of the 3rd round Bud started with a good combo left hook, straight right, then another left hook at 30:48. None of those punches landed. When the round began Bud faked a left, threw it half-way and pulled it back, then threw a right hook that was short and never reached Madrimov. Is that the good combo you're talking about? At 30:48 Bud throws 3 punches, the first is blocked, the next 2 both miss. This is how some of you guys have Bud winning, you're counting punches that didn't land. Watch in slow motion, it's the only way to see what's going on.
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  13. So far everything I've checked you were wrong about. At 34:43 you say Bud landed a straight 1-2. He threw a left that Madrimov blocked with his forearm and knocked it down, then Bud throws a right that's short by 6 inches. Neither punch came close to landing, this is how Bud won by some opinions, with punches that didn't land. This is the 4th or 5th check I've made and you were wrong every time.
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  14.  @BRoman0017  I'm one of a very few that watches a replay in .25 slow motion. Even then some punches are difficult to see clearly. I turn the volume off and have no bias. I don't know what you're referring to when you say 'simply tagging the target area and throwing effective combos'. How can a combo be effective if the punches don't land? That's the reason I watch in slow motion. I want to know who really landed the most punches, so I count every punch from each guy the entire fight. Sometimes I replay in slow motion 3 or 4 times before I can verify if a given punch landed or not. It sounds like you're saying the judges give credit for punches and combo's as long as it 'looks like' the punches may have landed. I'm more serious than that, I want to know the truth. After most fights there's a lot of debate about who really won a fight, the only way to know for sure is to count punches in slow motion. That's still not a perfect method but it's as close as I can get. I try to be fair, give a full point for power shots and a half point for jabs. Low punches, kidney shots and such get no points. At the end, I'm satisfied that I know the truth. Those watching at regular speed and not paying close attention are only guessing, usually arguing in favor of the fighter they like. That's fine with me, but I don't want to waste my time debating unless I know what I'm talking about. Boxing is corrupt so I stopped listening to the judges. I keep my own score and my own record for fighters. If most agree that the judges stole a given fight, then why should we acknowledge it?
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  15.  @Uncle_O_973  The Spence fight was easily Bud's best effort. He lost this fight.
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  16.  @Uncle_O_973  Better than the Spence fight? Nonsense.
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  17. If you don't mention which rounds you had Bud winning than you wasted your time saying he won easily.
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  18.  @twintopper8659  Judges are as dependable as a 1976 Yugo.
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  19. 40:25 to 40:32 Cruz threw 5 punches. The commentator said he missed all 5 of them. I saw him land 3 of the 5. A hard jab to the face at 40:25, a body shot and a sweeping right that got behind Valenzuela's glove. He missed the last 2 punches.
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  20.  @Roxynoz  Go back and take a look, don't be afraid. I wear 1.50 reading glasses by the way, Walgreens has some decent ones.
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  21.  @Roxynoz  Confirmation bias your ass junior. I say he landed 3 of those 5 punches, you say he landed none. How about we bet $100.00? We'll ask someone who can watch in slow motion, they will say who is right.
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  22.  @Roxynoz  Really? watch the replay at 41:44 from a different angle. Same jab. Smashed his face.
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  23. Good fighters often make the worst analysts, Shawn is proof of that.
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  24. Some of the students I went to school with were dumber than dirt.
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  25. He was landing at nearly 40%, you don't have to throw as many if you're landing at a higher percentage.
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  26.  @Chris.A.H  My punch count is the actual punch count.
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  27.  @Chris.A.H  I agree that power punches score higher than jabs, but Madrimov landed 10 more power punches than Bud. As far as the other categories, that's a bunch of crap. If I'm wrong, tell me how to formulate the winner of a round when mixing all of those variables into one conclusion. It can't be done, unless you want endless arguments on each and every factor in each and every round. Even then, argument or not, how do you compute, for example, one guy landing a few more punches, the other guy landing a couple more power shots, one guy having better defense, the other better ring generalship and one of them having better effective aggression? It's absurd, which official judge or amateur, can accurately assess all of those variables and score that round on his card in real time within one minute between rounds? Those other categories aren't needed, whoever goes by that and came up with it to begin with, is/are idiots. Here's why I say that; if one guy has better defense, how does that manifest itself? Better defense should mean getting hit less. That's already baked into the cake under the punches landed category. The same with effective aggression, that should result in landing more punches, ring generalship should also show up in landing more than the opponent. If those factors don't result in punches landed, then what good are they? It's the same as counting punches twice because each category shows itself in how many punches were landed by each fighter. Let's say one guy lands 20 punches, 10 are power punches, in a given round. The other guy lands 14 punches, 7 are power shots. But, a judge says that the guy that landed less punches had better defense, effective aggression and ring generalship. Who wins the round? Which category out of those 3 extra categories carries more weight? How about one guy judged to have won 2 of those 3 categories but the other guy lands a few more punches? It's ridiculous, completely unnecessary and impossible to calculate with any consistency or satisfaction for anyone. You'd have far more arguments after the fight, no way to effectively and accurately sort out the mess. Fans come to see punches landed on the nose, that's what the bottom line is for everyone. Ever heard a fan say he's going to the fight to see better ring generalship?
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  28. Honest and accurate are 2 different things.
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  29. Shawn gave the 7th to Bud as well. Bud did almost nothing in the 7th. He landed 2 body punches and a right jab late in the round, only 2 jabs before that. Madrimov landed 5 power punches. He won the round.
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  30.  @theresearchguystl  I had it 4-1 for Madrimov after 5 rounds. Bud landed a total of 1 punch in the 1st round and 2 jabs in the 2nd round. I count punches while watching in slow motion. Bud did very little in the first half, they were roughly even in the 2nd half of the fight.
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  31.  @jg_380  How many times did Bud land 3 shots in a single exchange? You can't show him landing 3 shots, just as I already knew.
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  32.  @jg_380  I'm dumb.
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  33.  @rodhipps6378  I remember once or twice Bud landed 3 punches. The OP said when he landed 3 punches but the commentators were silent. You just proved him wrong when you said that a commentator remarked 1-2-3 about those 3 punches. He made it seem as if they never talked about Bud's punches landing but they did. Listen to Andre Ward at the end of round#1. He said that Bud landed a good combination before the bell. Both punches missed, I watched in slow motion. Commentators are wrong all of the time.
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  34.  @Chengelo736  For many it's more difficult to be honest. Nobody bothers Black people, it's the Black, White and other people that lie that makes it hard for you.
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  35.  @rodhipps6378  Poor me, if only I was born White. BOO HOO.
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  36.  @rodhipps6378  No, that was one of one time, and he was wrong,. Only one of those punches landed. You exposed the problem. A punch lands if the commentator says so, and if he's talking about your favorite guy. If he's talking about the other guy, then he's biased and a hater. Any mirrors in your house? Ever look into it?
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  37.  @rodhipps6378  Commentators rarely get it right. If he did land 3 in a combination in the 11th, that's not the same as every round after the 5th.
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  38. Watching in .25 slow motion and it's still difficult to see every punch. Madrimov is boxing a masterpiece so far. He's landed more punches in each round than Bud is landing, I have Madrimov ahead 5-0 after 5 rounds. He's blocking punches and ducking under Bud's shots like a magician, consistently landing his own right hand. He's mixing it up well also, going to the body with a jab early, then jabbing to the head in the last 2 rounds. He throws a very short right hand at times that's too quick to be blocked, then he switched to throwing uppercuts and hooks around Bud's defense. Bud is tentative so far; he won't throw his jab much because he fears the right-hand counter that's been landing often. Watch the last 30 seconds of the 5th round, it gives you an idea of how Madrimov is winning. He lands 3 straight rights to the head, an uppercut and 2 body shots, while Bud lands 2 jabs in that sequence. Since Madrimov is the champion, if my score of 5-0 in his favor is accurate, then with 7 rounds to go it's hard to imagine how Bud took the title. I know that Bud got going later so let's see what happens.
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  39.  @CeasarMillado  You're in denial if you think that watching at regular speed is more accurate than watching in .25 slow motion and using replays if necessary.
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  40. The ignorant commentator said that Cruz threw 5 punches and all of them missed. You be the judge, watch at 40:25 to 40:32. Watch in slow motion if you can. I see 3 punches landing out of 5 . Commentators can screw up a good fight.
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  41. Andre Ward and Shawn were biased for Bud.
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  42.  @shazeekbeauford3537  Show me one 4/5 punch combo from Bud in the entire fight. You kids are full of crap.
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  43. Yes, Madrimov won.
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  44.  @choccolocco  Unlike you and some others, I have no bias. I never heard of Madrimov before this fight. I watch the fight in .25 slow motion with the commentary turned off. I score the fight based on punches landed. Madrimov landed more punches in 5 of the first 6 rounds. Bud had a hard time adjusting to Madrimov's unusual style. You can't watch casually and determine who won with any accuracy. I count punches using slow motion. Who is more likely to score it properly?
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  45.  @choccolocco  Why did you search for my comments? It seems that my opinion bothers you, maybe you're not aware that there are differing opinions about most things. You said Bud clearly won those rounds, you also said I'm a liar. You claim that commenting in more than one blog means that I'm biased. That's some back alley logic you're using. I said I first heard of Madrimov when I heard about this fight. I'll bet a lot of people never heard of Madrimov prior to this exposure. You doubt the honesty of people because you're dishonest yourself. Those that are honest don't have dishonesty in their heart or mind, therefore they don't automatically believe that everyone's a liar. When you call someone a liar, you should have evidence or proof. Your evidence is your opinion about the fight. That means squat. I gave evidence, counting punches in slow motion. If counting landed punches and using slow motion with the sound muted isn't an effective and fair way to judge a fight, then what is? Smoking a joint and using bias is hardly evidence. Give some facts like I did, if you have any. Otherwise admit that you're taking a wild guess. Where are your facts that substantiate the claim that Bud won?
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  46.  @paulchandler9060  Master the language before offering an opinion. You're embarrassing yourself.
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  47.  @choccolocco  The number of punches landed are all that count. Maybe you give points for the ring walk and the style of their boxing shorts, but people come to see punches land. The other things often mentioned all factor into the bottom line, the bottom line is how many punches each guy landed and what kind of punches were landed. Nobody can effectively score if you try to score each round using 4 categories. Better defense equals less punches landed by the opponent. Ring generalship puts you in better position to land punches. Effective aggression is the definition of punches landed. All of those things are meant to help land more punches or to prevent the opponent from landing punches. Trying to assign points to generic categories would drive anyone crazy. Landing punches is the bottom line, that's all that matters, making scoring complicated makes it easier to steal a fight. I don't play that, I don't care which method others use, I use common sense and counting punches that land is the only thing that matters.
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  48.  @blxkqtysgojh1094  I watched in .25 slow motion, still had to replay some punches 2 or 3 times. The last 2 rounds were difficult to score, too many punches were blocked from view by the body of one guy or the other. I had Madrimov winning the 11th, Bud winning the 12th. Bud landed 8 punches to only 6 for Madrimov in the 11th, but Madrimov landed 5 power shots and Bud landed only one power punch, the other 7 were jabs. I score a full point for a power shot, a half point for a jab or body punch. Bud landed 12 punches in the 12th to 8 for Madrimov. Bud landed 7 power punches to only 4 for Madrimov in the 12th.
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  49.  @shortmasters1  Madrimov landed more power shots and they count for more than jabs.
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  50.  @youngk596  He must have landed 30 to 40 straight right hands, and a bunch of left and right hooks around Bud's guard. Nobody has had such success against Crawford. It wasn't so much about volume, accuracy was the difference.
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