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@th3omachos okay thinking back it wouldn't have industrialized as fast but still would have Part of the reason why they industrialized so fast was they saw what happened to China in the opium wars and that was they realized how the European technological advantage was. I still don't think it would have been in time for the russo-japanese war which might not even happen without japan leaving isolationism at the time it did. Opium wars was a big wake up call and without that it would have been a slower process.
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Looks to west africa.
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There not allies . .. Its doesnt even go to a full on trade agreement. Its kinda like the quad or quadralateral security dialog but for ecconomic. Forum for discussion and way to sort out desputes stuff like that.
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PLEASE DO MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS THESE SORTS OF VIDEOS ARE HOW YOU REGAIN YOUR HONOR AND REPUTATION AMONGST THE BROADER INTERNET.
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The islamic golden age probably could have survived in a lesser form If I were to give a exsample The mongols was like what WW1 was to europe While the Timurids was like WW2 was to europe.
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NO russia would become it instead and steamroll the rest of continental europe once it industrialised.
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Nice to see a video on america that doesnt involve next months midterms Im sick of hearing about taxing tim ryan or hillbilly vance.
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@90skidcultist I'm not sure they allready had a very stable bread basket that being Egypt which produced so much grain to effectively feed all of the med and then some. With there allready being a excess of food there at some times I would expect it to have less of a impact than societies with out like Poland or Iceland.
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@Mo74mmad that or he used "herbal remedies" like nostradamus did. For "study purposes" of course.
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Not the next generation of Tamur lanes, ghenghis khans, or attilas I think its unlikley there will ever be another one of them.
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@ajstevens1652 okay if all of there there assets were seized then each individual were to get 103,030$s in value. Like the 4th Time Ive said this if it were to be distributed equally amongst the 330 million americans then each individual were only to get a small amont simply to many people. Seriously put 34,000,000,000,000,000 ÷330,000,000 in a calculator thats where I got that statistic from.
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@Drew_198 I never said he was I said he's said it so many times its a meme And memes spread themselves online so he might have predicted discussions like this in the comments to do his work for him. But take this theory for why with 50 grains of salt.
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Btw can I get a link or somthing like that to the map of what parts of britian settled where in the US?
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Cant wait for Aiden Carlson to create the position of First Speaker of the Realm and hold the same weight the name Augustus Ceasar has b
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@nedisahonkey fair enough Still it was a idea built for early stage industrial societys. It would need to be updated to a post industrial society And thats not a small change.
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@nedisahonkey I was talking about marxism as a hole not just leninism. Although those condtions were closest to the early stage industrial society marx lived in. And Cuba and the USSR never made it to a post industrial society and neither has modern russia China is getting to the point of it today. Which uh Most people would not call communist. If you want to see the conditions Im talking about when I say marxism was made for look no further than modern india or some parts of ethiopia. But I wouldnt be surprised if there is some variation of socialism made for post industrial societys.
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@splumpy8469 yeah I know Thats part of the reason I said the definition is stretched. Denmark has the biggest toy company in the world Lego and people call it socialist Land of the Swiss has one of the most corrupt companies in the world nestle and same thing. Canada has a Mapple syrup ologarchy and I had to call that "socialist" to prevent a argument with someone which not something I want.
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@Thomas-u8q that's not a innovation using a existing inovation on a different scale You wouldn't say the Americans invented the AK47 because they turn there citizens into ready partisans with the amount of AK47s they have, doesn't change the fast the Alexei Kalashnikov 47 is still a Russian innovation. Edit It was the same thing with Babylon they didn't invented the bow and arrow just put a bow behind every Spearman.
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Ww3 memes pop up every time theres some spike in geopolitical tension remember the iranian assasination, the start of the ukraine war, taiwanese wargames, etc.
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Can you do a alturnative history on what if greece won the battle of sakarya or what if greece won the greco turkish war Also you said everyone who thought they lost WW1 went fascist what about greece they thought they lost and they stayed a unstable democracy with a couple dictatorships.
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AileDiablo wiah showed quite a few maps that placed turkey in with the rest of europe supply wise even if he never outright mentioned it so he probably agrees with you on turkey.
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@muscovymapping8896 not quite as good as a kamchatkan russia Ok for real we dont know how said russia would end up years down the line It easily could balkanize like the Kievian rus did if it wouldnt centralize but if that wouldnt happen then it would be better.
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@Rohan Rajan at first yes That was before the mongol empire fractured and well the golden hoard didnt.
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I he made up a situation more so like russia and china being allyed today they both hate eachother but hate the american world order even more. Or in this case they hate the european world order even more. It was not a aliance ment to last but one rather ment to break the world order they were in.
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Can you make a video about what if Sweden had lost the Swedish war of Liberation and the Kamar union survived in SOME FORM.
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Well spaces future is terran I guess. In more than one way
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Wow this turned into a shit show. Also everyone talking about France then there's me Germany never "gave them up". Instead lost them in a war.
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@matthewhi6712 no the acronym.
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Also I guess the internal competition of the west is for the most part gone now I see this as the last huzzah for western technological advances I'm serious when I say this There's no longer competition between different countries inside of the west other than potentially internal European politics between eastern and western Europe There's no longer militaries with much of a reason to exist beyond protecting from everything not under the American sphere of influence I mean just look at the German military There's no longer Competition between the church and anything else and there hasn't been in over a hundred years There's no longer really any merchant guilds competing with each other And we'll the new tech institutions are working with rather than against everything I see one last burst due to the hole Chinese VS American sphere with the wildcard of the SMALL remaining Russian sphere as well And from the culture war between the new religion and the old philosophy better known as SJWS Vs right wingers in America but it's way more than that and with a line that has nothing to do with policy positions. Edit oh also we do have a central intellectual elite and it's the government since we'll whats taught in school is now decided by the GOVERNMENT so this video gets the point across but still is slightly outdated.
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King Wiwuz IV still slowed down from going from horse and buggy having the ability to reach the moon in 100 years And I never said it stopped if you were to read it again I did say I think this is the last Huzzah of the great acceleration. My point we don't have the same internal competition anymore I mean what you said about companies only goes in industry's where there's not a monopoly or as most industry's do now have a duopoly which is most when you realize even tissues are monopolized by Kimberly that's when you realize how many duopolys there are. Sure the US and China still is competition but what about afterwords as I point out were past the point of 4 separate competing great powers and now down to just which if one beats the other then what's left?
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King Wiwuz IV yeah I know the digital revolution But who does Facebook or Google have to compete with The drive for technological advancement to gain a upper hand on your Competition is absent now in tech companies Why do you think that battery life has remained stagnant for the past decade or so sure charging speed has increased but total battery life hasn't.
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Yeah I mean events are based on social factors Outcomes of said events are based on decisions Even if The Khan didn't exist the Mongols would have attempted to push outward probably wouldn't have succeeded though without THE KHAN and definitely at the scale it did IRL.
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@danieljarlskov3549 before ww1 the Russian revolution wouldn't have been a communist one It either would have been ultra populist like the French one or social democratic in nature. The communists being the only anti war force was what made them get enough support to pull it off.
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Now what countries will hillariously try to claim to be the next america? I half expect israel to call itself Amerika in the same way turkey called itself the sultinate of Rum.
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This video is amazing.
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@jonsonronson7270 china Well china wants to go back to gradual sinosization of "nomads"/"barbarians" and dominating there region. In other words what the us is but for the asian contenent alongside manifest uighurs.
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@jonsonronson7270 they kept to themselves Bruh rip nanman and they tried to invade vietnam over a dosen times. They eventually became complacent with the northern tribes and indochina being to hard to conquer and them reaching the himalayas. They did have a inwardly facing era after they got traumatized by the mongols similar to how the world wars traumatized europe. Not to say they were hyper agressive they were just as much as any other civilization including the west before industrialization.
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@jonsonronson7270 I dont think your pro PRC or anything like that just you seem like the type of person to romanticize other civilizations pasts while demonizing the west or as I like to call them oikophobes. The sort of people who blame europeans for conquering africa but not egypt or somalia for trying to take ethiopia as a extreme exsample. Stuff like complaining about how america ruined latin america while ignoring how the mongols ruined Khwarazm by destroying the irigation system there yeah okay chinas is more regional in terms of agression and not global like americas. They are doing the thing where they get a naval base EVERYWHERE like for real why does china have one in djibouti and why are people worried there going to take the Kigamboni Naval Base. But yeah america has done that much more.
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@jonsonronson7270 yep the west was greedy yep still acting like no other civilizations were EVER is my point the west still is run by the same species as everyone else homo sapiens with the same emotions, and since greed is just a extreme version of desire which is a emotion. The one diffrence between the west and every other civilization was SCALE. Also completly agree with you on nation states although east asia did have a similar thing with koreas chinas and japans boarders did line up pretty close.
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@jonsonronson7270 china has way more than one naval base well they have 17 overseas most in the indian ocean. NOT SAYING THAT JUSTIFIES AMERICA the exsact opposite Im saying 2 wrongs dont make a right.
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@jonsonronson7270 Once again the west is not "special" its just for the west it was alot easier due to there industrialization or beforehand plague hitting the americas horribly. With China they had a peaceful period during the ming dynasty but look at how far the tang pushed into Central Asia or War of Pacification in Nanzhong. Just like how after the world wars Europe had a peaceful period america is not Europe okay. It doesn't just go for China the only real exception I can think of is india which I'm not sure why yet they did have the cholas invade Indonesia. Dominating the world no dominating there region YES keeping poor countries down that is somthing the west has only done on a large scale theres small cases like a few Muslim sultanstes keeping ethiopia poor but that's rare.
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Well before 2020 alot of shit happened that year Plus transition to a multipolar world has to come sometime soon that will not be boring and in a bad way.
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@SebHaarfagre dont forget especially about georgia and especially what they did to the ilkhanate the ottomans would have alot of competition in the middle east without Timurid.
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@jamalisujang2712 YES
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I DID NOT EXPECT THIS UPLOAD BUT IM HAPPY.
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After the green,digital,and industrial revolutions Life sorry the world is catching up with us now we just need to catch up with it. We need a new moral system like religion or ideology for this new caught up world. Alongside new forms of etiquete for the internet do I need to go on. So many necessities for this new world need to be established. Im just happy to have a shot at establishing them.
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@yonathanrakau1783 I don't remember him talking about us needing a new for a new etiquette for the internet although I've never watched the podcasts he's been on he might have mentioned it there. But moral stuff yeah he has mentioned and world catching up to the great acceleration he implied but I don't think he said outright.
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@happilyendme3521 no and not even after his death There was alot of Arabs/Iraqis living in Assyria that were though They even survived till after Timurid and only fully died out in the assyrian genocide.
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while the British controlled the rest of India I think whatifalthist forgot about GOA NEVER NEVER FORGET ABOUT GOA or else the MASSIVE Portuguese empire will go to war with you simply to humiliate you.
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This video must have been in production for eons with how long its been teased intentionally or not. If this took a while is the suez crisis taking a while or canceled?
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