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@BurtReynolds-qp1jk not really, you won’t pay someone who just lets the rich enter your house and take stuff, so your right defense agency would be there ready to shoot anyone who does. What are results exactly here? Because to the majority of people it’s not having your rights trampled on.
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@Mortablunt wow you should watch the video, and the rest in the series.
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So you didn’t actually watch the video. Like socialists kill other socialists all the time.
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@cezarstefanseghjucan what of the labor theory of value that’s inherently authoritarian?
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How so?
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@SkeeterHowitzer Your excuse is terrible, a door with women written on it was made to exclude men, but no where does this title exclude you. maybe you should watch the video. You know, the one that uses the source you brought up to show you the opposite conclusion.
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@MoonshineH so me as the farmer who spends his own labor is being coercive if I expect people to pay me for it, dispute the fact that there are dozens of farmers and that anyone can become a farmer? Also you do know how companies buying out their competitors directly creates more competition, it’s the law of supply and demand, if competitors are being bought up, it signals that there is a demand for such a good. More competitors would pop up just to be sold and they won’t sell themselves for less then it took to create them.
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@MoonshineH what process results in a monopoly? Can you show any real world examples of this happening?
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@MoonshineH can you provide examples? The ability to accumulate capital doesn’t equal eventual monopolization, not only is the economy net-positive, but the more wealth you have the less in touch with reality you are which makes it harder for you to accumulate capital.
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@MoonshineH there are a lot more forces behind the centralization of wealth then the monopolistic forces you describe, like how standard oil already lost a significant market share long before anti-monopoly laws were being brought up. The truth is profit attracts investment, investment creates competitors, and competitors reduce profit and market share. The only reason we are seeing such accumulation of wealth is because of larger socioeconomic systems.
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Did you watch the video?
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@mcundy5680 so how would you disprove his claim?
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@mcundy5680 so you didn’t actually watch the video? Where all these arguments are addressed? The Nazis were race based socialists, not marxist class based socialists. They didn’t not promote private property, in fact they suspended it in 1933. Socialism isn’t just Marxism.
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So what is socialism?
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So you didn’t actually watch the video?
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@charleymount582 but what does that actually mean?
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That’s blatantly false, his antisemitism was anticapitalism, he hated Marxists because be believed they were puppets to the Jewish capitalists, and his propaganda reflects this.
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@Azazin187 he problem is socialism isn’t democratization of the workplace, if it was it wouldn’t be called that. There are two kinds of socialists, those who believe socialism can be achieved naturally, and those who believe it’s has to be artificially created. The natural side believes that statelessness is possible, while the artificial side believes a state is needed to create and maintain socialism. Also can you provide any examples of TIK misrepresenting things because of a lack of context?
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@Azazin187 the problem here is your comparing two entirely different aspects and then saying they don’t match. Compare the ideology to the ideology, and the economy to the economy. Turns out the ideological roots of both ideologies are similar, Hitler believed in a lot of ideas that prevented him in believing in the free market like the shrinking markets theory. He actively sought to reduce the differences classes, to the point of forcing every company to create workers councils that could dictate what the employer had to do.
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@Azazin187 so your using a source that denies history? Even the sources you used sates that private owners didn’t actually control their companies, only choosing what and how they produced. The costs of materials and labor where sat by the sate, and the prices they could sell their good where also set by the sate. On top of that if a good was in high demand you had to go through extensive state bureaucracy to even attempt to buy it. Remember that nazism has nothing against the capitalist, their economic policy was synchronization, every aspect of society would be become socialized. Germans who weren’t properly socialized were sent to the camps and re-educated. Basically they didn’t care about classes as long as you were German and were a proper member of society.
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@Azazin187 socialism is only complex when you get caught up in all the obfuscation that socialists apply when talking about the ideology. Socialism is really simple and it uses a lot of tricks to make itself seem more complex then it really is.
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@Azazin187 he completely ignores thane fact that the Nazis suspended private property in 1933, what else I’m a supposed to assume but how he completely ignores the sources to fit his biased agenda.
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@ysbrand1114 can you provide sources for them privatizing anything?
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A good way to view it is socialists believe humans can be socialized, most socialists say that it can be taught, but Nazis say it has to be evolved.
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And the Soviet Union didn’t do the same?
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@lambnathan97 What’s your credentials to argue that it was a false premise? Like where are you getting this information from that historians are not in a loose consensus on the fact that the Nazis weren’t funded to power by capitalists? Because from an outside perspective like my own, nether of you provide evidence for your claims here.
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@lambnathan97 so can you point at a historian that disagrees with TIK? Like if it’s so easy then go ahead. So far you have been making unsubstantiated claims that also have no baring on the actual argument of the video. Like is why he likes to make 5 hour videos that you don’t watch, because if he doesn’t then you idiots will nitpick one irrelevant fact that he didn’t feel was worth showing the evidence for. Like how does the fact that historians disagree with him have anything to do with the arguments presented?
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@yaboi2639 how was he anti-socialist? Because I remember that Stalin also purged rival socialists from his party, so does that make him anti-socialist?
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@nicknolte8671 oh is not any of his sources on nazism not good enough for you?
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@nicknolte8671 so he goes directly to the historical sources? And they say the opposite of that all the scholars on fascism say? Well who do you think is wrong here?
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@nicknolte8671 when schoolers contradict themselves within a couple of sentences of making a statement, I I’m inclined to dismiss their subjective opinions.
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Wow, it’s almost like Marxism and Nazism are different socialist ideologies. One based around class and another based around race.
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@lukelyon1781 most libertarians I’ve met are vary right leaning, and all of them agree that IP is idiotic.
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What about utopian socialism, that existed before Marxism and clearly didn’t have the class based devisions.
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@kackbraten5390 I mean this is the shortened version, there’s a 4 hour version that goes into much more depth.
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@hobbso8508 Same as socialism. In fact Marxism is even more kleptocratic the the Nazis.
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@hobbso8508 so socialism has strong property laws?
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How so?
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Did you actually watch the video?
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Did you watch the video?
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@jeepers4202 what?
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How so?
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@gerardmonsen1267 did you watch the video?
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What makes someone a real historian?
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Uh, socialism amongst Germanic nations has always been more nationalistic. There is a reason Denmarks socialist party is against immigration. TIK has made a more recent video going more in-depth into Hitler’s disagreements with Gregor Strasser, the truth is Strasser also believed in German racial supremacy and all that.
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@Die-Sophie uh, you do understand that the national socialists were third positionists, if you are using a political spectrum.
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@bigbubbles55 but complete and total price controls without being at war is socialist policy.
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@bigbubbles55 One that every capitalist ever would tell you is awful. So why would capitalists create extensive price controls over the entirety of the economy while they weren’t at war?
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@bigbubbles55 but over everything? I can get one or too goods, but in Nazi Germany you name it, and it had price controls.
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@bigbubbles55 and I believe Fascism and Nazism were both sub ideologies of socialism because it doesn’t make sense for a radical reactionary movement to adopt every policy that they seminally were reacting against.
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